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Wondering if this has been discovered/ has a name...

Deku-Wolf-Link

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I found out that in Smash 4, if you start a dash and then immediately flick down on the c stick you do an instant dash attack in the direction you flicked the control stick in. Does this have a name?
 

3870x2

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Yeah, we call it the Deku-Wolf-Link. Some dude mentioned it in a smash boards thread.

BRB going to check this out.
 

ATH_

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Inputting any direction on the c-stick when dashing with perform a dash attack, as you can't do down smash, up smash, or forward smash while being in a full dash animation. Please take this to the Q&A threads next time.
 

Deku-Wolf-Link

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Well, for what I'm talking about it actually does matter which direction you flick the c stick. It only works with down. Where exactly is this Q&A thread, it would be great if you could point me in the right direction?
 

ryuu seika

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On the 3DS, smashing the stick forward, rotating to another direction (or returning to neutral) and then hitting A would result in an instant dash attack, or IDA for short. What you've discovered is that, due to the way the C-stick is interpreted, up and side flicks don't work.

This is probably because the dash is meant to be cancellable into a jump (hence why DACUS exists) and its initiation must cancel into a forward smash to allow players to perform the move by stick (hence why you can't throw out a dash attack from standing by normal means. I guess, since back smash is the same move as forward smash, the game treats them the same for this purpose.
The game cannot, however, do anything with a down smash input during the dash initiation period, meaning that it is ignored and only the attack input from the C-stick can be used. Since smash attacks with the C-stick result in a negation of all main stick input in Smash 4 (until both return to neutral) no forward input will be seen by the game, meaning it will register a neutral attack during dash instead of a forward smash.

I'd be curious as to what happens if you set the C-stick to tilts but, as is, you have not discovered a new technique, only a new and easier means of execution.
 
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erico9001

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Hmm, this will actually be useful for me to know.
 
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