mythbust4000
Smash Journeyman
Falcon is ubur stronger not that much slower he can spike and has better specials except for lazer
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why is fox better then falco
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AirFair
Marth tho
You mean Falco? anyway, Fox has more speed and can spike with shine. He has a great combo game and a lot of options in every scenario, also being one of the most technical.
Personally I preferthe air Falco because of his awesome combo game and laser approaches. His recovery is crap compared to fox tho, so you have to have to be good.
Personally I prefer
Jim Jam Flim Flam
Smash Apprentice
They're roughly even in the neutral game (with falco having a very slight advantage) but fox has better recovery than falco and can do very well on certain stages like pokemon stadium. They're the two best characters in the game and if you ask me, I think falco is the best character in the game for singles, but fox is by far better for doubles. Even in singles, falco's advantage over fox is so small it's really negligible.
AirFair
Marth tho
Yeah, Fox has a lot of advantages in that, but that doesn't mean Falco can't do anything. He has great combos on Fox, but Falco has to just be precise.
SSS
Smash Ace
They're the same, top 5 characters are about the same, you can win with basically the top 8 characters in the game, basically those 8 are even, Melee is amazing <3
AirFair
Marth tho
Yeah it truly is. Apparently a Marth hasn't won a national since Azen in 2007, and recently, Apex 2015.
AirFair
Marth tho
Yeah that would have been cool. I wonder how PC will do in the future since he is coming back
Patrick Ray
Smash Apprentice
Fox ain't better. Falco lasers and D-Airs son! Fox got nothing.
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AirFair
Marth tho
Hey it's RayRay! dude I'm gonna be at SIFB on Saturday! hope the turnout is good because of Dime and everything.
Falco vs Fox is as even of a matchup as there is. Fox gets the advantage on the tier list though because he's better versus floaties. Jiggs, Peach, and Samus are all winning matchups for fox. Whereas they are much closer to even matchups for Falco. Falco has no matchups lower than even though, so its not like Falco is being underrated.
AirFair
Marth tho
True. PPMD and Mogwai went deep in that matchup on the stickied thread lol. It's honestly only a tier advantage because of of other matchups imo.
Barry BlaZe
Smash Cadet
Fox has NO bad matchups!
Fox is the only character that can expose this ***** jigglypuff.
Falco struggles slightly in matchups like peach and sheik and can be gimped.
Fox has immense speed and it allows for a pletora of options. Some of this options are garenteed and hit quite hard for example drill shine grab up thorw up air. Or stuff like drill shine up smash.
Fox is the only character that can expose this ***** jigglypuff.
Falco struggles slightly in matchups like peach and sheik and can be gimped.
Fox has immense speed and it allows for a pletora of options. Some of this options are garenteed and hit quite hard for example drill shine grab up thorw up air. Or stuff like drill shine up smash.
AirFair
Marth tho
GO AWAY HAX
no but srsly Fox may not have horrible matchups, but that doesn't mean all of his matchups are good. Fox Falco and Fox Marth are both pretty even, and Fox's speed can make him hard to control too. He is also the most technical, making him the hardest to be consistent with
Just saying.
no but srsly Fox may not have horrible matchups, but that doesn't mean all of his matchups are good. Fox Falco and Fox Marth are both pretty even, and Fox's speed can make him hard to control too. He is also the most technical, making him the hardest to be consistent with
Just saying.
falco has no bad matchups IMO and matchups themselves are kinda like arguable in terms of perception. For instance, I would say falco wins slightly vs fox and marth and that marth slightly beats fox. others would say differently(seriously, theres no good consensus at all levels of play). I also think falco has a slight advantage against puff and peach.
drill shine grab upthrow up air is not guaranteed. neither is drill shine upsmash. the drill can be sdi'd and same with the upair. the upthrow upair works only on certain percents and sometimes is almost frame perfect. shine can sometimes be hard to followup with due to sdi mixups or them going on the ledge. These options while still good are as practically reliable as falco's pillar comboes. waveshine upsmashes on peach are reliable though and you have a good enough window to react even with sdi. SDI killls a lot of both spacies comboes. Infact falco can zero to death almost all the cast with perfectly timed dair shines/uptilt into a finisher(I was testing this in debug mode).
Sheik being a bad matchup (or even even) vs Falco is kinda a lower level way of thinking. Getting gimped is frustrating, but it comes from getting grabbed by shiek, which is usually a result of unsafe shield pressure. If u watch top level falco's, they barely ever get grabbed, and without that shiek looks abysmal in the neutral.
AirFair
Marth tho
Yeah, I think Falco vs Sheik can be good for Falco if he doesn't get grabbed. m2k himself has said that he believes Falco is the best in the game because of his lasers and range. It's still subjective but at least I know that Fox isn't completely invincible.