why does my l cancel suck

[brwnhawaiin]

ive been trainin with sheik for the past few days, and i can never seem to do an l cancel without my shield alwasy popping up. am i pressing it to early, pressing the l button too hard? ive also noticed, then when i dont L cancel, and i just make sure to keep holding left or right on the d pad when im landing after an aerial move, there isnt much lag at all, would this be a good technique to use?

 

[ArcNatural]

Shiek has very little landing lag on most of her aerials, which means you need to really hit L/R or Z pretty fast to L-cancel them. Sheik can miss L-cancels in matches and still be competitive for this reason. So just hit L/R or Z faster to L-cancel better with Sheik. With L or R you don't need to press the button all the way down, halfway is good enough. The reason why holding left or right from an aerial works when you miss a L-cancel is because it makes you leave your landing animation faster. But if you have done a shff without L-canceling I don't think this shortens the time at all, just looks like it does (especially with Sheik).

 

[alcheato]

why does my l cancel suck

Because you touch yourself at night.
If you're shield's popping up, you're doing it too late or holding L too long. As for holding left/right, don't do it as a lag-shortening technique.

 

[petre]

if your shield pops up when you do it, it means youre holding L/R/Z for too long. you have to press it fast.

EDIT: whoops, he^ beat me to it.

 

[Mcscruff]

You have to press and release L faster. It doesn't even matter if you miss L-cancels with sheik. With sheik, you won't get punished too much for that.

 

[brwnhawaiin]

ah, its so frusterating, im tappin L pretty fast, and my shield pops up still, oh well, ill just have to practice more. thanks for the help though.

 

[pdk]

you can just use the z button instead for LCing

 

[jaywinner]

but if you use Z, instead of the shield poping up, wont you end up grabbing thin air?

 

[quak]

another probable cause is that you don't need to l-cancel, cause you attack lag has already ended, and therefore there is no lag to cut down on, so you just bring out ur sheild instead

 

[cradmazy_SKAG]

secrets to L cancelling good=

press the L trigger down as SLIGHTLY as possible.

you have 20 frames (1/3 sec) BEFORE you land to L cancel. press early.

this helped me alot. hope it helps u.

 

[pdk]

but if you use Z, instead of the shield poping up, wont you end up grabbing thin air?

no, you'll just get a lightshield the same way you do when you hold Z midway through an attack

and Z should be easier for this guy since the finger travel for it is a lot shorter than with L/R

 

[Melo-tone]

no, you'll just get a lightshield the same way you do when you hold Z midway through an attack

and Z should be easier for this guy since the finger travel for it is a lot shorter than with L/R

I agree. Z also seems to have less push length. So just tap the Z right before you land, and if you get the light shield just roll/wavedash out into an attack. Sheik has a decent wavedash so even getting the shield isn't too much of a problem.

 

[pikachun00b7]

ive been trainin with sheik for the past few days, and i can never seem to do an l cancel without my shield alwasy popping up. am i pressing it to early, pressing the l button too hard? ive also noticed, then when i dont L cancel, and i just make sure to keep holding left or right on the d pad when im landing after an aerial move, there isnt much lag at all, would this be a good technique to use?

Practice l-canceling more.

 

[The_Famous_SK]

OK on a similiar note I have problems short-hopping. With sheik. I can make it work when im just ******* around but whenever I'm really fighting someone, I can't make the hops short enough to blast'em with a SHFFL fair punch. Any tips?

 

[The Cape]

There isnt enough hatred in your heart. Thats the simple answer.

 

[Luck-NYC/NJ]

There isnt enough hatred in your heart. Thats the simple answer.

its true u must cultivate all the hatred inside u and transform it into L-Cancelling energy. Without hatred u will never be a good smash player. i advise killing ur best friend thats how cape did it right?

 

[pdk]

you must instill in your mind that Ls are your mortal enemy, then you'll be able to cancel them and laugh as you dance on their cancelled corpses

 

[Giggidax]

lawl at pdk etc.

the reason why ur L-cancelling sux is because shieks aerial lag is small so u have to press L really fast and let go of it really fast. it takes practice to time it right but once u get it down then yea u have it. yea there u go

if that doesnt work i suggest selling ur soul to evil demons in exchange for perfect L-cancelling

 

[Stryk9]

but he plays shiek, why does it matter?

 

[Giggidax]

if it decreases ur lag and speedsup ur gameplay even by just a little bit why not use it? L-cancelling cant hurt, to tell the truth, L-cancelling should be a part of everyones game

 

[the_air_up_there7]

Because you touch yourself at night.
If you're shield's popping up, you're doing it too late or holding L too long. As for holding left/right, don't do it as a lag-shortening technique.

Jeje you got that from family guy!!! Anyway L-cancel shouldn't be that hard, if the shield keeps on poppin out its because you are too slow......so deal with it. You will get it! Just keep practicing it.

 

[Mosk]

Here's what I did(even though I main Marth):

First started practicing L-Cancelling with Link (especially with his plunger attack)
Then Young Link, Y.Link has this bouncing rythm that's fun to get familiar with so from here on L-Cancelling and my gameplay began to instill.

Really does help 'cause even though I stopped L-Cancelling nearly altogether to get back to the basics such as spacing, shielding, evasion, extreme exploitation of priorities, and mindgames on Lightning Mode for a few months, just yesterday I returned to regular melee and those L-Cancels are coming through without me making a note to do so.

 

[brwnhawaiin]

thanks guys, the z button helps so much. its much easier to press that then L. im still learning though.

 

[Eaode]

Here's what I did(even though I main Marth):

First started practicing L-Cancelling with Link (especially with his plunger attack)
Then Young Link, Y.Link has this bouncing rythm that's fun to get familiar with so from here on L-Cancelling and my gameplay began to instill.

Really does help 'cause even though I stopped L-Cancelling nearly altogether to get back to the basics such as spacing, shielding, evasion, extreme exploitation of priorities, and mindgames on Lightning Mode for a few months, just yesterday I returned to regular melee and those L-Cancels are coming through without me making a note to do so.

 

[KevinM]

Just press it in the 1/3 of a second before you hit the ground just tap it down really fast and then release... a common misconception is to hold it... Don't you'll shield and that eliminates the point of doing so.

 

[brwnhawaiin]

i saw the light, ive learned that when i fast fall, its sooo much easier to l cancel. but i stll need more work.

 

[pdk]

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1919/plungratkax4.png

that earth's face is EPIC

 

[Tristan_win]

OK on a similiar note I have problems short-hopping. With sheik. I can make it work when im just ******* around but whenever I'm really fighting someone, I can't make the hops short enough to blast'em with a SHFFL fair punch. Any tips?

...Well what I did was grow out my right thumbnail so I would have more to flick it with. Now I can short hop anytime I want.

 

[pdk]

tap the edge of the button, not the center

and sheik's shorthop sucks anyway

 

[alcoady]

a good way to practice the L-cancel timing is to do short hop aerials without fast falling, I improved crazy fast after practicing this way.

 

[Retroking2000]

a good way to practice the L-cancel timing is to do short hop aerials without fast falling, I improved crazy fast after practicing this way.


I agree wuth alcoady on this one