Why Charizard's up b

[SleepyTRex]

Why does charizard move so slow after up b just begging to get punished even if you hit with up b they can fastfall and smack your ass right after in my opinion up b should be faster afterwards cause damn its slow

Also yeah I know use down b but you just get hit once and its over you should be able to do it again after you get hit whats up with that

 

[HarryTheChin]

i agree. Kappa

 

[SleepyTRex]

Shuttup harry lol

Jk

 

[Hao the Champion]

Because it's really not meant to just randomly attack with? You can use it as an OoS option or maybe a combo finisher after you chain a ton of Uairs at the top. Charizard doesn't have a fast fall-speed and has decent fast-fall speed, but still.

 

[SleepyTRex]

I disagree

 

[Kuraudo]

Up + B should not be used nilly willy. In fact, it's one of his strongest killing moves, and even a weak hit if done near the top will net some nice star KOs.

 

[Oatmeal.]

I seldom ever use his up-B as a fighting tool. It's mainly just a way to poke from below to finish up long air combos.

 

[0RLY]

Because you didn't sweetspot the ledge, that's why.

 

[narizard]

Because you didn't sweetspot the ledge, that's why.

ORLy from Easton and Apex? I'm Red :D We played a bit lol.

 

[kaizo13]

if you're getting punished from using up-b then you're using it incorrectly. it's meant to be a finisher off the top or as a pressure escape (up-b OoS) if you miss it or you land it at low %, then you deserve to get punished.

same goes with glide. it's a really good recovery move but if you get hit out of it you end up in a pretty bad situation....but you can avoid getting hit by canceling it into an aerial or glide attack, plus you can still up-b afterwards.

that's what keeps the moves balanced....big risk, big reward

 

[0RLY]

ORLy from Easton and Apex? I'm Red :D We played a bit lol.

Yes! It was nice playing you! Which reminds me, I learned this neat trick at Apex from this NY zard main. I forget your name
Glide->b-reversal turnaround the glide cancel (back+B then immediately hit forward)
It makes you glide forward, then you drift backwards like an airdodge distance away from the direction you glided and turns you around to face the direction you were gliding. It's SO good for fake outs since zard moves so slow during his glide. Both for recovery and on stage mix-ups. Like you can pretend to recover above the ledge or platform, then fake out back to the ledge or up-b to the ledge. Make your opponent think you're going to glide over them but instead fake out and land in their face. It's surprisingly fast and good against characters with smaller attack hitboxes.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

I like to just downB ledge stall :b

 

[narizard]

Yes! It was nice playing you! Which reminds me, I learned this neat trick at Apex from this NY zard main. I forget your name
Glide->b-reversal turnaround the glide cancel (back+B then immediately hit forward)
It makes you glide forward, then you drift backwards like an airdodge distance away from the direction you glided and turns you around to face the direction you were gliding. It's SO good for fake outs since zard moves so slow during his glide. Both for recovery and on stage mix-ups. Like you can pretend to recover above the ledge or platform, then fake out back to the ledge or up-b to the ledge. Make your opponent think you're going to glide over them but instead fake out and land in their face. It's surprisingly fast and good against characters with smaller attack hitboxes.

Yeah it's called b-sticking. Like pikachu's reverse thunder where you jump off the stage, hit down+b, then imediately hit the direction back to the stage and you'll go back, but the thunder creates like a wall off stage. Lol. I'm Kurt btw. My tag was never defined since I just started playing, when we played was like 2 weeks or so of me playing the game Lol. I only play because of Charizard. I am starting to pick up melee as well now though.

 

[Ragna22]

I use his up B as a finisher so I never found it to be a problem and it works just fine for me.