KayaMarley
Smash Cadet
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Hi everyone, first post here. There are plenty of Smash Ultimate DLC discussion threads out there, all cluttered with ideas of who could be the next big DLC character. Here i wanted to stray off the (very) beaten path, just a tad. In this thread we will (of course) discuss who's next, but with a twist.
First things first. Rules:
there are lots of rumors out there over what can and can't be in, as well as many leakers confirming and deconfirming characters/companies, some of which are reliable due to their proven successful past, and others just anonymous users throwing stuff out there. The idea of this thread is to return to our roots and look at what we know for certain, and go from there. We will only operate by knowledge given to us by Nintendo themselves, as well as what they have shown through history. (yes i know Sakurai is prone to make changes, like ridley, but some changes that are being suggested are a long stretch, and as such those will be ruled out.)
1. No Spirit characters. - While it isn't explicitly said that they can't be in, it's highly likely that when a character is chosen to be a spirit, that is the representation that's been chosen for them in smash. this is evident by such things as the playable character spirits that can be bought in the shop/earned by playing said character in classic mode. these spirit types are different from the others, and ultimately have no use, other than standing as a symbol of achievement. While there are certain oddities, like estranged variation of characters that are already in being represented as spirits, they aren't the same instance of the character and therefor are not the same.
2. No Assist Trophy Characters. - At this point it is more or less common knowledge that any character who is an Assist Trophy, will not become a playable character. This is proven by characters like Krystal and Bomber-man, who were originally meant to be playable characters, but got dropped due to the 2nd party not agreeing on the moveset in time, or time constraints. It's safe to assume no character is getting an upgrade, since sakurai would most likely feel that's a lazy move, given how extensively he's worked on the DLC's up to this point, each being represented to it's fullest capacity.
3. No Nintendo Characters. - This rule will be changed later after the 5th character comes out, since we don't know anything about what will follow this first 5 Character DLC pass, but for now, this is just a discussion about the 5th character. It has already been stated by Nintendo that the DLC characters in this fighters pass will all be 3rd party characters, which means no Nintendo rep for this slot.
4. No Echo's or characters that could be considered an echo. - All the characters in the DLC pass have been extremely different from anything else to have ever been in Smash before. Joker with his Persona mechanic and rebellion meter, Hero with a Mana bar and drop down spell list, Banjo with his split of projectile and up close gameplay, golden feathers, as well as superior air game (in the sense that he has 3 jumps and can inter mingle his recovery anywhere in between them without the loss of any jumps), and Terry, with the single most hardest moveset to learn in the game, spanning 5 different specials (a first ever in smash), each with 2 - 4 different levels of strength and speed, as well as the Go meter for intense late game comebacks. It's clear that sakurai wants us to get our money's worth, which is why no direct or indirect echos will be listed here (such as Dark Samus, chrom, isabelle, another link, etc.)
5. post a max of 5 characters. - We don't want people posting every character under the sun. TLDR's clutter threads like these, and for that reason as well, only a brief explanation as to why the character you've stated might have a chance. This isn't a thread of what characters you want, but rather what characters have a possibility of getting in. please state why if you can (no harm if you can't, but just think it's a relative possibility)
That's pretty much it, sorry for the long winded post. I want to try and keep things level headed here (tired of hearing about waluigi and geno when they are already represented, lol).
Edit: This goes without saying, but no meme characters or characters that aren't Videogame characters first (a.ka. no goku or batman).
First things first. Rules:
there are lots of rumors out there over what can and can't be in, as well as many leakers confirming and deconfirming characters/companies, some of which are reliable due to their proven successful past, and others just anonymous users throwing stuff out there. The idea of this thread is to return to our roots and look at what we know for certain, and go from there. We will only operate by knowledge given to us by Nintendo themselves, as well as what they have shown through history. (yes i know Sakurai is prone to make changes, like ridley, but some changes that are being suggested are a long stretch, and as such those will be ruled out.)
1. No Spirit characters. - While it isn't explicitly said that they can't be in, it's highly likely that when a character is chosen to be a spirit, that is the representation that's been chosen for them in smash. this is evident by such things as the playable character spirits that can be bought in the shop/earned by playing said character in classic mode. these spirit types are different from the others, and ultimately have no use, other than standing as a symbol of achievement. While there are certain oddities, like estranged variation of characters that are already in being represented as spirits, they aren't the same instance of the character and therefor are not the same.
2. No Assist Trophy Characters. - At this point it is more or less common knowledge that any character who is an Assist Trophy, will not become a playable character. This is proven by characters like Krystal and Bomber-man, who were originally meant to be playable characters, but got dropped due to the 2nd party not agreeing on the moveset in time, or time constraints. It's safe to assume no character is getting an upgrade, since sakurai would most likely feel that's a lazy move, given how extensively he's worked on the DLC's up to this point, each being represented to it's fullest capacity.
3. No Nintendo Characters. - This rule will be changed later after the 5th character comes out, since we don't know anything about what will follow this first 5 Character DLC pass, but for now, this is just a discussion about the 5th character. It has already been stated by Nintendo that the DLC characters in this fighters pass will all be 3rd party characters, which means no Nintendo rep for this slot.
4. No Echo's or characters that could be considered an echo. - All the characters in the DLC pass have been extremely different from anything else to have ever been in Smash before. Joker with his Persona mechanic and rebellion meter, Hero with a Mana bar and drop down spell list, Banjo with his split of projectile and up close gameplay, golden feathers, as well as superior air game (in the sense that he has 3 jumps and can inter mingle his recovery anywhere in between them without the loss of any jumps), and Terry, with the single most hardest moveset to learn in the game, spanning 5 different specials (a first ever in smash), each with 2 - 4 different levels of strength and speed, as well as the Go meter for intense late game comebacks. It's clear that sakurai wants us to get our money's worth, which is why no direct or indirect echos will be listed here (such as Dark Samus, chrom, isabelle, another link, etc.)
5. post a max of 5 characters. - We don't want people posting every character under the sun. TLDR's clutter threads like these, and for that reason as well, only a brief explanation as to why the character you've stated might have a chance. This isn't a thread of what characters you want, but rather what characters have a possibility of getting in. please state why if you can (no harm if you can't, but just think it's a relative possibility)
That's pretty much it, sorry for the long winded post. I want to try and keep things level headed here (tired of hearing about waluigi and geno when they are already represented, lol).
Edit: This goes without saying, but no meme characters or characters that aren't Videogame characters first (a.ka. no goku or batman).
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