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Who else is is nervous about Brawl... failing to deliver?

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Fawriel

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Sorry for stealing the title ( yoink! ). Also, it may seem like the same issue, but it's not.

There are some of us who are worried about the mechanics of the game, that it might be watered down, and so on.

I'm not worried about that.
What I am worried about is the hype. In a way, this is mostly about characters. But not quite.


Sakurai is building up tons of hype. He's doing that by giving us daily updates... for a loooong time.

Point 1: He started too early. With the occasional exception, updates are starting to seem more and more normal, and we still have a long way to go. Sakurai will have to give us a ****load of information. Will there be nothing left to discover?
Will it affect sales that you already know too well what you're going to get?

Now, Sakurai also introduced ATs. They are probably intended as a means of keeping fans happy. Yet they also greatly turn away fans who were looking forward to the AT-fied character. People in the N-Sider forums are going ****ing INSANE. Sure, they're mostly scrubs and you may not feel sympathy with them, but they ARE the consumers.

Point 2: Advertising a game by showing what is not going to be in is a **** bad strategy.
Will too many fans be turned away?

With such a large team, such a long list of composers and so on, Nintendo must be pouring money into this project like they're expecting it to single-handedly win them the console wars.
They're trying to hype it to maximize profit.
However, they're also raising expectations. There is probably a WHOLE lot more discussion and anticipation going on in the world for characters in Brawl.
There were people disappointed by Melee, but it's unlikely that they'd feel as disappointed as they may NOW.

Point 3: Nintendo is pouring money into this like hell. People are arguing like hell. People WILL be disappointed.


To sum it up:
I'm afraid that the game will flop due to disappointed expectations and ruin the company.
It sounds very far-fetched, but it's happened before. Square ruined itself by trying to produce a movie, and we all know how much they have to try to cater to the mainstream consumer to stay alive.

I admit, I'm possibly overreacting a lot, and I don't know ANYTHING more about economics than what I can learn from common sense.

What do you think? Are my worries justified or will people's ire soon die out into a small puff of smoke and let them happily buy the game?
 

OnyxVulpine

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Um.... From my point of view... Doesn't every game that comes out.. Meant to be (By the company) the best game that they have ever created if any?

This game will be able to deliver to me with online. I didn't play Melee quite as much as anyone else around here. I didn't get all of my kicks out of Melee, so when Brawl comes I'm sure it will be great for me. I don't have any "experienced" outlooks such as you know... abilities for SHFFLing and Wavedashing and what not.
 

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There are always nay-sayers and people who will be dissappointed. You can't please anybody. Buy the game once it gets out, and see for yourself whether or not the game delivers.
 

Fawriel

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I wonder whether I made myself clear enough.
I'm not worried for myself that I won't like the game. It's very unlikely that I won't.

What I'm worried about is that Nintendo seems to really pump money into this and are hyping it like there's no tomorrow.
But today they disappointed the pretty large Deoxys fanbase, many of which were probably absolutely convinced their favourite would be playable.
If they miscalculate and end up disappointing even larger fanbases, it could greatly hurt the sales. Raising expectations too much can backfire.

I don't want Nintendo to lose money and to have to resort to producing crappy games for the masses for all eternity.
 

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People will just buy this game, regardless of what character will or won't be playable. Seriously.

"Hey man, did you check out Brawl? It's the most amazing game ever man! It's really good, a worthy sequel to Melee!"
"Nah, I'm not buying it."
"What? Why not?"
"Deoxys isn't playable."
"..."

Just because you can't play as one character you just decide not to buy the game you've been discussing and following for months? I can understand if you wouldn't buy the game because you don't like Smash Bros., but you wouldn't follow the updates and go this forum either.

The people who 'believe' in Brawl, so to say, will buy this game, no matter what. And that's a LOT of people. Then those people will tell casual players about how great this game is, and the game magazines will say it's great too (given that it's a good game, of course, but I have no doubt about that), so they'll buy it too. Get it?
 

Brockman5

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yeah you wont not but just cause deoxys isn't playable...
I was devistated when deoxys wasn't a character in the game but im still gonna buy the game...heck ive already pre-ordered it...
 

Procrasticritter

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The only people who will be dissapointed, will be the ones who aren't able to play Brawl because they still can't find a Wii.

I have faith that they won't dissapoint. Miyamoto is involved in the project. That's reassurance enough for me.

as for characters, I, like everybody else, really hope that my absolute favorites (Krystal, Wolf, Lucario, Diddy Kong, etc.) do indeed make the cut as playable, but really, what can you do if they don't?

Just gotta play with whoever my favorite character that they do decide to make playable is. At least I got Pit, Snake, and and my favorite ***-kicking furry, Fox McCloud, to play as, if it should just so happen that the don't reveal anybody else that I really wanted.

unfortunately, frustrating as it is, we as individuals really don't have control over what is going to be in this game, even if we have ideas about it. For example, thousands of people would have made Deoxys a playable character, but the few people that do have creative control over the game, decided otherwise. I guess its something that everyone has to decide for themselves, whether the choices that Sakurai and his development team make will stop you from wanting to play or not.

I'm planning on buying and playing Brawl reguardless of whether my most wanted newcomer characters are plaable on not.

I guess after all is said and done, the question you ahve to ask yourself is: are you going to focus on what they could have put in, or what they DID put in?
 

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The only people who will be dissapointed, will be the ones who aren't able to play Brawl because they still can't find a Wii.

I have faith that they won't dissapoint. Miyamoto is involved in the project. That's reassurance enough for me.

as for characters, I, like everybody else, really hope that my absolute favorites (Krystal, Wolf, Lucario, Diddy Kong, etc.) do indeed make the cut as playable, but really, what can you do if they don't?

Just gotta play with whoever my favorite character that they do decide to make playable is. At least I got Pit, Snake, and and my favorite ***-kicking furry, Fox McCloud, to play as, if it should just so happen that the don't reveal anybody else that I really wanted.

unfortunately, frustrating as it is, we as individuals really don't have control over what is going to be in this game, even if we have ideas about it. For example, thousands of people would have made Deoxys a playable character, but the few people that do have creative control over the game, decided otherwise. I guess its something that everyone has to decide for themselves, whether the choices that Sakurai and his development team make will stop you from wanting to play or not.

I'm planning on buying and playing Brawl reguardless of whether my most wanted newcomer characters are plaable on not.

I guess after all is said and done, the question you ahve to ask yourself is: are you going to focus on what they could have put in, or what they DID put in?
all true.... i love that last sentance...
 

Icetrash

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If K.Rool appears as an assist trophy next week on the DOJO update site I will still buy brawl. I am having hard decisions making up my main as it is (Snake, Zamus, Metaknight). Brawl will be fantastic no doubt about it, and I will be upset if K.Rool didnt make it but atleast that gives me hype for the next Smash Bros game.
 

TaurToph

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"Hey man, did you check out Brawl? It's the most amazing game ever man! It's really good, a worthy sequel to Melee!"
"Nah, I'm not buying it."
"What? Why not?"
"Deoxys isn't playable."
"..."
Dude, the character you play is the most important thing after all. It's like the pokemon of a trainer or the sword of a samurai: don't matter how good you are with it, you're really nothing without it.
I just fell like Y. Link when playing melee, and, when Y. Link is axed, i fell axed, too!

Yes I'm buying the game cuz there are other characters that i want to play, but, if there was just characters I hate, i would never buy smash bros!
 
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