Who can the jet hammer hit while they're hanging on a ledge?

[A Rogue Cop]

This is something that interested me so I decided to test everyone. I did both fully charged and non-charged hammer hits because their hitboxes are a bit different. Obviously the necessary spacing will be different for every character. Try and aim to get the hammer to hit their heads or hands, whichever is higher up. All characters were tested on miiverse's omega version, hanging on the right ledge, but I don't think the stage really matters the vast majority of the time. A marking of (PRECISE) means that landing a hit requires a very specific placement, moreso than is likely to be practical.

Character | Uncharged | Fully Charged
| Yes | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| No | Yes (PRECISE, must be lifting head up)
| Yes | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| Yes (PRECISE) | Yes
& s | Yes | Yes
| No | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| No | Yes (PRECISE)
| Yes (PRECISE) | Yes (PRECISE)
| No | Yes (PRECISE)
| No | Yes
| No | Yes (PRECISE)
| No | Yes (PRECISE)
| No | No
| No | Yes
| No | Yes
| Yes (PRECISE) | Yes
| No | Yes
| No | Yes
| No | Yes
| Yes (EXTREMELY PRECISE) | Yes
& | Yes (PRECISE) | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| No | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| No | Yes
| Yes (PRECISE) | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| No | No
| Yes | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| No | Yes (PRECISE)
& | Yes | Yes
& | Yes | Yes
& | Yes (only when lifting head above ledge) | Yes (even without head lift)
| No | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| No | Yes
| No | Yes
| No | Yes (PRECISE)
| Yes (PRECISE) | Yes
| No | Yes (PRECISE)
| Yes | Yes
| Yes | Yes
| No | Yes (PRECISE)
| Yes (EXTREMELY PRECISE) | Yes (PRECISE)
| Yes (Tall + Short) | Yes (Tall + Short)
| Yes (Tall + Short) | Yes (Tall + Short)
| Yes (Tall + Short) | Yes (Tall + Short)

As you can see, there are only 2 characters in the entire game that Dedede is incapable of hitting from the ledge with a fully charged hammer: and . However, this was done with a simple trial-and-error test, so there's a possibility that I simply wasn't able to find the exact spacing that would make hitting them possible. I know that the jet hammer is a very situational move and should only be used sparingly, but I feel that any move a character has at their disposal with major killing power should deserve a thorough study.

Thanks to JimmyTheCaterpillar for providing data on the new DLC characters.

 

[JimmyTheCaterpillar]

I got you. UN is Uncharged, FC is Fully Charged. Sorry I can't make a nice graph... On a phone.

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: UN - YES..... FC - YES

: UN - NO..... FC - YES (VERY PRECISE)

: UN - YES (EXTREMELY PRECISE)..... FC - YES (VERY PRECISE)

 

[Soul Train]

Nice data. Though I would swear I've missed the likes of Shiek/Diddy with a full charge, maybe timing was off.

For what it's worth: I get 99% of my Jet Hammer kills by walking towards the ledge all threatening-like, then quickly reverse-swing at their roll getup. tee hee hee

 

[A Rogue Cop]

I got you. UN is Uncharged, FC is Fully Charged. Sorry I can't make a nice graph... On a phone.

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: UN - YES..... FC - YES

: UN - NO..... FC - YES (VERY PRECISE)

: UN - YES (EXTREMELY PRECISE)..... FC - YES (VERY PRECISE)

thanks, I'll add them to the main graph

 

[JimmyTheCaterpillar]

thanks, I'll add them to the main graph

Wheee helping is fun

 

[CaptainVul]

Is there a point to use the Jet Hammer over the Down Smash when someone re-grabs the ledge?

 

[A Rogue Cop]

Is there a point to use the Jet Hammer over the Down Smash when someone re-grabs the ledge?

Arguably no but mindgames are always fun, if less consistent.

 

[cwjakesteel]

I thought the jet hammer could hit anyone hanging on the ledge. Why doesn't it?

 

[A Rogue Cop]

I thought the jet hammer could hit anyone hanging on the ledge. Why doesn't it?

It just doesn't reach down far enough for Ganondorf or Greninja, it seems. Both of those characters hang on by the very tips of their fingers.

 

[JimmyTheCaterpillar]

It just doesn't reach down far enough for Ganondorf or Greninja, it seems. Both of those characters hang on by the very tips of their fingers.

Not entirely sure if this is necessary, but I also would like to mention, because I forgot earlier, that I can reaffirm it is impossible to hit and on the ledge with Jet Hammer. I even tried it on Battlefield, since it's easier to hit people under the ledge with things there, and it's still a no-go.