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Smash Apprentice
So back before the shield breaker nerf patch I used to test F-smash tipper vs Neutral B tipper kill %s for the purpose of shield break kills....
I was testing it out today and apparently things are very different.
F-smash used to kill 1% earlier than Neutral B....
However....
I tested neutral B vs Sheik on fd near the ledge (no di) and it killed her at 16% where as f-smash tipper did not kill at 16%.
I tested the same thing vs Diddy Kong only it got really weird. F-smash tipper killed at 14% where as Neutral B didn't kill till I believe 16%.
Now I know character weight can be a factor and I purposely paused every time I hit the Cpu so they couldn't accidentally put their hurtbox into the blast zone.
However Even against Donkey Kong Neutral B killed earlier than Tipper F-smash (somewhere near 45%)
So now I've always assumed because f-smash tipper hits 1% harder its knock back growth would be stronger / a better kill move overall... now im questioning if Shield Breaker actually is a better kill option vs "Light weights" Characters below the average weight of 95. (mario, sonic, etc)
Thoughts?
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Wario dies to neutral b at 22% and F-smash tipper at 18%.....
I was testing it out today and apparently things are very different.
F-smash used to kill 1% earlier than Neutral B....
However....
I tested neutral B vs Sheik on fd near the ledge (no di) and it killed her at 16% where as f-smash tipper did not kill at 16%.
I tested the same thing vs Diddy Kong only it got really weird. F-smash tipper killed at 14% where as Neutral B didn't kill till I believe 16%.
Now I know character weight can be a factor and I purposely paused every time I hit the Cpu so they couldn't accidentally put their hurtbox into the blast zone.
However Even against Donkey Kong Neutral B killed earlier than Tipper F-smash (somewhere near 45%)
So now I've always assumed because f-smash tipper hits 1% harder its knock back growth would be stronger / a better kill move overall... now im questioning if Shield Breaker actually is a better kill option vs "Light weights" Characters below the average weight of 95. (mario, sonic, etc)
Thoughts?
edit
Wario dies to neutral b at 22% and F-smash tipper at 18%.....
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