When do you think this game will die?

[Spoice]

The game has been competitive since about 2002, we've seen tons of amazing players, from Ken to Mango, but every competitive game dies out at one point. The question is, when will Melee die out, and what game will takes it's place?

 

[EPsilon933]

I'd guess when a Smash game as good as Melee happens, but that wouldn't really kill it. There'd be some conversion, I guess, but Smashers are different from other competitive gamers. There's an unusual amount of loyalty to their games. They, especially Melee players, don't often play other competitive games that aren't their main game, from what I've seen. Even if a Smash game >= Melee happened, its loyalists would keep it alive until they're dead

 

[AirFair]

I don't think anytime soon. Maybe when they make something as good or better. It's too valuable lol

 

[Thor]

Shortly after the 12th of Never.

Maybe if all the equipment breaks down so we're left with disks we never take out of ancient gamecubes and Wiis where we have to replace the lasers periodically and really crappy Gamecube controllers... but that doesn't stop 64 players [they replace controller parts, refurbish N64s if I'm not mistaken, etc.] so I think as long as there are disks and memory cards, people will be good to go.

I don't think anytime soon. Maybe when they make something as good or better. It's too valuable lol

It would have to better in a sense basically no one could dispute, and that's going to be very difficult. PM is close, but there are still plenty of people who have various gripes with it [tiny as they might be, and some of those are even about Fox not being broken enough XD (though those people are just uneducated about the game and too biased to learn : P )], so I honestly think such a game would be very difficult to produce, if it's even possible.

 

[AirFair]

Bruh Melee for life. Like there is so much history to it it's amazing.

 

[ceecee]

Possibly when the actual supply of the game and gamecubes deplete.

So...a very long time from now.

 

[goobaje]

Well even when we run out of disks or working consoles, there is always USB loading, so I really dont know. I think EPsilon is right that when a game as good or better comes along.

 

[pershona]

Probably never, unless all of the players somehow get bored of it. Discs dying isn't a problem, Usb loading and emulators exist. And they still make gamecube controllers like the Smash edition ones.

 

[Racuncai]

if you know the term "solved game" you can have an idea of when the game will die, but we are still learning things about a 13 years old game that's insane and i think that will not happen soon, we have a few years of meta before that can happen, and like the other guys have said, people are loyal to the game and they will still playing even if the community is dead.

 

[Stark]

I agree with EPsilon. Just look at Smash 64!

 

[Drakester234]

Melee won't die unless Sakurai (or next person who directs the game) decides to make a game that appeals to both casual and competitive players and succeeds in doing so. The reason why competitive games die out is because a sequel or new edition comes out. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 used to be played a loads of tournaments then MvC3 came out and pretty much erased it from big name tournaments. Street Fighter is the same. SFV will replace USFIV when it comes out. With nothing to succeed Melee, it won't die.

 

[JFB (JurgaBurgaFlintines)]

Melee will never fully die out. If anything, it will be at least 10 plus years until it reaches "64" status. When I mean 64 status, I mean that there will be only a handful of tournaments for the game and only one person will rule the game.

Melee is honestly different from other competitive games in the sense that it is soo deep. Like we've been playing this game for 14+ years and we haven't even hit the ceiling of tech skill and stuff that is possible. Combined with the fact that this game is unique from all of the other Smash games in it's engine in physics, it won't die out I will promise you that. Even after competitive Melee dies out, there will be people who play this game and try to find new things about it.

 

[AbsentPage]

I think the game will never die in the past decades. The only way it can actually die is if EVERYONE stopped playing for specific reasons. But of course, I don't think it will never happen in this day. We always learned something new everyday we kept playing this game that I find it endless. :-)

 

[Twinkles]

when you pry the controller from my dead hands

 

[Browningtons]

I'd say 15-20 years. But by then there will be a melee like smash either fan made or Nintendo made.

This game is awesome.

 

[Rahu700]

Shortly after the 12th of Never.

Maybe if all the equipment breaks down so we're left with disks we never take out of ancient gamecubes and Wiis where we have to replace the lasers periodically and really crappy Gamecube controllers... but that doesn't stop 64 players [they replace controller parts, refurbish N64s if I'm not mistaken, etc.] so I think as long as there are disks and memory cards, people will be good to go.



It would have to better in a sense basically no one could dispute, and that's going to be very difficult. PM is close, but there are still plenty of people who have various gripes with it [tiny as they might be, and some of those are even about Fox not being broken enough XD (though those people are just uneducated about the game and too biased to learn : P )], so I honestly think such a game would be very difficult to produce, if it's even possible.

If things really get bad, emulators will always be there too. Though a lot of people refuse to support that idea because it isn't the "real" experience.

 

[fatman667]

Until a game based on Melee comes out with more simplified mechanics and character balance comes out. Hate to say it, but simplified mechanics are going to be very appealing to new blood and new blood might make old blood move on.

 

[gmBottles]

Shortly after 20XX in the year 20YY. Later in 20ZZ it will be revived from nostalgia.

 

[EPsilon933]

Until a game based on Melee comes out with more simplified mechanics and character balance comes out. Hate to say it, but simplified mechanics are going to be very appealing to new blood and new blood might make old blood move on.

Isn't Smash's mechanics already simple enough?

 

[epeengaming]

When the last CRT burns out unless we all switch to a standard for LCDs.

 

[fatman667]

Isn't Smash's mechanics already simple enough?

It is, but people probably wants even simpler eventually sadly. Same thing happened with Guilty Gear in a sense, tons of people complained it's too hard and then the game got hella lot easier since FRCs were removed and the pace was slower, but the game regardless has a very similar level of depth, in terms of neutral game and mechanics usage, than its immediate predecessor which was probably the hardest one imo. You'd be surprised, but I know a lot of people who says Smash is really hard game to get into at a competitive level play btw. Smash isn't the hardest (for fighting games I definitely have to say Guilty Gear), but it does take some time to get adjusted to.

 

[Bones0]

every competitive game dies out at one point.

Except, you know, pretty much every mainstream sport (baseball, football, soccer, etc).

 

[Kadano]

When the last CRT burns out unless we all switch to a standard for LCDs.

CRT lifespan is approximately 40k hours. If every serious Melee player hoards five of them, we should be able to hold out until at least 2050. By then, similarly lagless monitors (OLED or other technologies) should hopefully be available. The input lag will likely be a couple of magnitudes greater than that of a CRT, but as long as it is less than one percent of average visionary simple reaction time, it should be negligible. (Right now, it’s approximately 1-2% for the fastest LCDs out there. Good CRTs are 0.001%.)

Additionally, when CRTs fail, it’s usually some capacitor in the power supply that can be easily repaired. With the Melee scene getting older, the amount of members that know how to repair these things will increase.

 

[atzero]

It depends on what you mean by die. Do you mean the tournament scene drops off to almost nothing such as Smash 64? Or do you mean when people just don't play it anymore? If you are talking about the latter, maybe 20 years from now. The former could happen sooner if Nintendo boots that jackass Sakurai and makes another game like Melee or Project M.

 

[JFB (JurgaBurgaFlintines)]

It depends on what you mean by die. Do you mean the tournament scene drops off to almost nothing such as Smash 64? Or do you mean when people just don't play it anymore? If you are talking about the latter, maybe 20 years from now. The former could happen sooner if Nintendo boots that ******* Sakurai and makes another game like Melee or Project M.

Sakurai will go to extreme lengths to make sure a game like Melee or Project M is not made while he's around. And he'll be around for atleast another decade.

 

[Spoice]

Except, you know, pretty much every mainstream sport (baseball, football, soccer, etc).

except those are sports

 

[Purple_Anteater]

Possibly when the actual supply of the game and gamecubes deplete.

So...a very long time from now.

By the time that happens Nintendo will have probably reissued the game on the Virtual Console.

 

[TheRealBlueBlur]

If Nintendo releases GC VC for this game on the Wii U, then a long time from now.
If not, probably in 4-6 years. It's hard to tell.

 

[gmBottles]

If Nintendo releases GC VC for this game on the Wii U, then a long time from now.
If not, probably in 4-6 years. It's hard to tell.

What? The game is bigger than ever right now, 4-6 years is super unlikely.

 

[TheRealBlueBlur]

What? The game is bigger than ever right now, 4-6 years is super unlikely.

Really? It's getting slightly less and less popular every year, and with SSB4 put on the spotlight, 4-6 years seems about right.

 

[Spazzy]

Really? It's getting slightly less and less popular every year, and with SSB4 put on the spotlight, 4-6 years seems about right.

Sm4sh does seem to be getting more people into the competitive scene, but more people from that scene are going to Melee. I've seen many posts on Reddit saying "Switching from smash 4 to melee?" or "Wanting to get into Melee." It seems to be helping the Melee community grow if anything

 

[TheRealBlueBlur]

Sm4sh does seem to be getting more people into the competitive scene, but more people from that scene are going to Melee. I've seen many posts on Reddit saying "Switching from smash 4 to melee?" or "Wanting to get into Melee." It seems to be helping the Melee community grow if anything

So is this just going to be a paradox? Whenever a new Smash comes out, people will complain that it is too slow and casual and "go back to Melee". Melee will literally live forever until Nintendo releases a Smash that can be played competitively and casually, but is geared slightly towards competitive play.

 

[Legitimate Ted]

By the time that happens Nintendo will have probably reissued the game on the Virtual Console.

You mean for the 3DS? Being a multiplayer-geared game, Nintendo will never allow that.
And Sakurai will have none of it.

 

[gmBottles]

So is this just going to be a paradox? Whenever a new Smash comes out, people will complain that it is too slow and casual and "go back to Melee". Melee will literally live forever until Nintendo releases a Smash that can be played competitively and casually, but is geared slightly towards competitive play.

I'm fine with this.

 

[NoviceSmasher]

So is this just going to be a paradox? Whenever a new Smash comes out, people will complain that it is too slow and casual and "go back to Melee". Melee will literally live forever until Nintendo releases a Smash that can be played competitively and casually, but is geared slightly towards competitive play.

this happens extremely rarely given how hard it is to get a gamecube a melee disc ,,and if you download off the internet its easier ,but you still have to catch up on about 14 years of tech skill

 

[The Soap]

Really? It's getting slightly less and less popular every year, and with SSB4 put on the spotlight, 4-6 years seems about right.

Actually it's getting more popular, with Apex 2015 being the biggest Melee tournament ever, with over 1,000 entrants.

 

[ValiantNorth]

So is this just going to be a paradox? Whenever a new Smash comes out, people will complain that it is too slow and casual and "go back to Melee". Melee will literally live forever until Nintendo releases a Smash that can be played competitively and casually, but is geared slightly towards competitive play.

I'm fine with this.

Me too, regardless I don't feel that Melee will continue 'Forever' as unfortunate as it is.

Entropy always increases.

 

[ZomBiehn]

I'm sure my son will be playing smash and so will his son when that time comes, Eat, Sleep SMASH, Repeat

 

[Dart!]

It will reach a point where everyone that drives the scene is "too old" or moves on in their real life then the tourney scene will die.

 

[Massive]

Melee already died once.

It's much harder to kill something that's undead.