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What's the best way to train?

Tonyman

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I guess playing against good players, i mean theres no better way to train, but also for other kinda training, like technical training, well, just play as you wish practicing your auto-lands and stuff.
 

Toglop

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Only one other person I know plays Brawl, but he barely ever does. (He's no so awesome either)
 

Magus-Cie

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Only one other person I know plays Brawl, but he barely ever does. (He's no so awesome either)
Try playing some faster characters as level 9 computers. They do suck, but you will need to truly speed your playing style up.

But ya, I need help- too, because I only know two people who play decently in the area, and I dont get a chance to play them very often.
 

dlen06

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ya lvl 9 fast computers to get your speed up. Practice auto-cancelled dairs in training mode. Play online too. Make friends on the boards to play with.
 

Cooper736

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Try playing some faster characters as level 9 computers. They do suck, but you will need to truly speed your playing style up.
Never, ever, play against Lv. 9 CPUs. They are fast, but all they will teach you is that they have super-human reflexes and powershield everything. The highest level you should go to is 7 if you want something to fight against, and Lv. 3s are good for practicing new strategies.

What I started doing today and what has worked well is going to Training mode and putting a Lv. 7 CPU on the Run command (I'm not sure if the Lv. 7 rule applies here, I'll have to check). Run is misleading because the computer doesn't just camp until you come at it, it actually engages you. It just doesn't attack. Expect powershielding, spot-dodging, and rolling. It really helps your reflexes if you want to hit with your Thunderstorms and Ftilts.
 

Ekoix.exe

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Never, ever, play against Lv. 9 CPUs. They are fast, but all they will teach you is that they have super-human reflexes and powershield everything. The highest level you should go to is 7 if you want something to fight against, and Lv. 3s are good for practicing new strategies.

What I started doing today and what has worked well is going to Training mode and putting a Lv. 7 CPU on the Run command (I'm not sure if the Lv. 7 rule applies here, I'll have to check). Run is misleading because the computer doesn't just camp until you come at it, it actually engages you. It just doesn't attack. Expect powershielding, spot-dodging, and rolling. It really helps your reflexes if you want to hit with your Thunderstorms and Ftilts.
Doesn't that make you better by adjusting to super human reflexes you should have no problem adjusting to regular human reflexes. Learning to deal with power shielding is a good way to get your game up, players need to learn how to chain a string of moves in a way its not possible to DI or they get shield broken if they persist to powershield (Not perfectshield).
 

dlen06

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Doesn't that make you better by adjusting to super human reflexes you should have no problem adjusting to regular human reflexes. Learning to deal with power shielding is a good way to get your game up, players need to learn how to chain a string of moves in a way its not possible to DI or they get shield broken if they persist to powershield (Not perfectshield).
I don't think so. Cooper's got a point. You should prepare by practicing with enemies with similar reaction times as human beings. If you're trying to hit something that's going to know where your attack is going, the spacings and timing habits you develop could make you miss and get punished.
 

Magus-Cie

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Click here to take a look at a thread I started on the general boards asking the same question. Good stuff in there.

Yay! I was useful!
 

PEACHYprincess

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I would just go online and brawl people. You'll get so much better when playing against someone rather than a computer. Trust me :)
 

Magus-Cie

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Never, ever, play against Lv. 9 CPUs. They are fast, but all they will teach you is that they have super-human reflexes and powershield everything. The highest level you should go to is 7 if you want something to fight against, and Lv. 3s are good for practicing new strategies.

What I started doing today and what has worked well is going to Training mode and putting a Lv. 7 CPU on the Run command (I'm not sure if the Lv. 7 rule applies here, I'll have to check). Run is misleading because the computer doesn't just camp until you come at it, it actually engages you. It just doesn't attack. Expect powershielding, spot-dodging, and rolling. It really helps your reflexes if you want to hit with your Thunderstorms and Ftilts.
Actually, check my last post, it corrects the error in my ways. The best advice I can give you for solo training (and this has helped me improve my game immensely) is to play level 4s-5s and focus on not getting hit. It was a HUGE help, though I was already a fairly good [non-competitive] player.


I would just go online and brawl people. You'll get so much better when playing against someone rather than a computer. Trust me :)
Alot of people complain about lag though, and I know some of my friends who play solely online, so when I play them IRL, they have sometimes a 1/4 of a second delay in what they do.

Kinda like knife fighting in Dune...

BONUS POINTS to whoever understands the Dune reference.
 

PEACHYprincess

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Well if your concerned about lag, just ask to brawl people from the state your in or close to it.
I also like the idea of playing 4's and 5's, I'll have to try that one out.
 

dlen06

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Kinda like knife fighting in Dune...

BONUS POINTS to whoever understands the Dune reference.
ahhh, the slow blade penetrates the shield.

Just finished it for the second time 2 days ago. "I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer."
 

punked_25

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I think theres another thread here on smash boards that gives advice on how to train with your character. It pretty mush says though to fight against low level computers and not level nines. Apparantly practicing against level 9 computers is un-realistic and can make you develope bad habits, which I think is definitely believeable. They also say that the best training you can get is with actual humans. Which I think is pretty true too. Either way, whatever you feel is best should work out fine.
 

Platformations

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If no one near you is good... fight those far away.

The lag isn't bad if you have a good connection. I'm sorry if you don't.

Training outside of online:

Combo training: lvl 1's
Overall playing: lvl 7's

That's what I do. But I usually just go online. Just don't play "with anyone" XD
 
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