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What's one change...

Hapajin

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Apr 6, 2014
Messages
168
...that would make Samus top tier?

...or cement her as the worst character in the game?

I actually saw this topic in the Ike boards, but I saw some creative answers, so I'm curious what the pros here would think. Just for fun discussion, serious solutions aren't necessary.
 

Metallinatus

Smash Lord
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Feb 20, 2015
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Location
Blanka's Lair, Brazil
One change that would make Samus top tier: make Jab 1 true combo into itself forever.
One change that would make Samus worst character: give her missiles' priority to all of her moves.
 

Zylach

Smash Ace
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Feb 11, 2012
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652
Location
Madison, WI
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Orienlithel
3DS FC
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What would instantly make her top tier: Screw attack does what it does in all the actual Metroid games.
What would instantly solidify her as the worst: Uair increased knockback so it can never combo into itself or screw attack. That or zair landing lag increased to match her grab endlag because they both use the grapple beam and reducing grab's endlag would make her OP in Sakurai's eyes :p
 

Hark17ball

Smash Journeyman
Joined
May 1, 2015
Messages
426
Location
Easton, Ma
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Talos21
3DS FC
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Top Tier- If she was able to fire off missiles like in the games....of maybe if you could control the angle of Zair like Megas Metal blade.

Worst- If you couldn't store her charge shot!
 

Xeze

Smash Ace
Joined
Aug 18, 2008
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715
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Portugal
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XezeMaster
3DS FC
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Top tier: bring back her Melee missiles and nair.

Worst character: charge shot ceases to be a kill move.
 

S.P.A.D.

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Mar 22, 2008
Messages
107
Location
Georgia
NNID
Lavama
Top Tier: HAH YEAH RIGHT KEEP DREAMING BUDDIES *cries* Make her faster all around.
Worst Character Ever: Hold down B to charge the charge shot (As in if you let go you fire, can't use any other B move while charging), in exchange for the ability to move while charging.
 

leiraD

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Sep 19, 2014
Messages
189
Location
Cape Coral, FL
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TacoShell
Best
Some combination of the following:
Screw attack kb like zero-suit's upb
charge shot kills at 80%
Quick power missiles that kill around 110%
10% damage zair w/windbox that slightly pulls opponents in
SuperWaveDash

Worst

Reduce upb kb or increase startup lag
add lag to zair
add lag to dtilt
dair only soft-spikes
jab1 frame 8
charge shot doesn't kill
 

Jandlebars

Still fallin'!
Joined
Jan 11, 2013
Messages
126
Location
VIC, Australia
Top-Tier change:
Bombs detonate on enemy contact, always send opponents upwards, and have enough hit-stun to carry them to the top.
Or just make the Bombs into Smart-Bombs that can't hurt Samus (ie. Power Bombs).

The End-of-the-World change:
Air Dodge lasts as long as her short-hop does (meaning no more SHAD :x).
Or Charge Shot does more damage and charges faster, but does double damage to her when it hits someone.
 

Xygonn

Smash Ace
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Dec 12, 2014
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768
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Seattle Area
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Top-tier: Octo directional missiles and charge shot.
Worst: No changes necessary, ayy lmao. Seriously though, you could probably do it if you just put 4 more frames of landing lag on uair and zair.
 

BlackCephie

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Dec 8, 2014
Messages
203
Best:
A complete redesign that includes-
1. An fsmash that iterrates plasma beam from the metroid games into a mid ranged chargeable oscillating burst that functions like mega mans fsmash.
2. A down b that replaces bomb with beam switch on neutral b to ice beam that results in less knockback than charge beam, but gives us a freeze.
3. Replace awful dsmash with power bomb drop that kills at reasonable percent.
4. I love dair, but she still needs bomb jump, so make dair the aerial down b bomb that we have now, but still spikes if bomb hits.
5. Replace jab with what is now fsmash, so that it functions similar to Ganons jab, with less knockback than current fsmash but is a single powerful blow with solid get-off-me knockback plus sets target on fire cuz that would be sweet.
6. Give her the Project M dodge, and make morphball a crawl, cuz it just makes sense.
7. Fix the rest of her janky moves like usmash, uair, and neutral air so that they hit more reliably.
6. Charge shot chargeable in air for goodness sake.
7. Reduce landing lag on all aerial projectiles. Even if the landing lag on aerial normals remained, this would reinforce the idea of her being a zoning character.

Worst:
Keeping her the way she is now.
 
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