What would you like to see implemented for Icey's for Brawl?

[Speedsk8er]

The title says it all.

I only thing that I would like to see done is make it so that tilts knock opponents out of Popo's grasp. Wobbling is broken.

 

[pockyD]

I'd love it if they came back at all; there are heavy rumors that they are getting removed

but nana using some alternate recovery method when alone (even just a vertical airdodge would help so much) would be nice

 

[Wobbles]

Broken = unstoppable, unbeatable, or so difficult to overcome that one side uses a disproportionate amount of effort to the other during a match. Tournament results and testing indicate that the infinite is not, in fact, broken according to that definition.

...Enough of that. I think they would need to clean up Nana's AI so she doesn't, without warning, attain super timing on her aerials, dash attacks, dodges, etc. Whether she's a really powerful AI or not isn't really the issue; the problem is she becomes impossible to predict because there are few patterns to her behavior. Sometimes she goes running straight through an opponent to return to Popo; sometimes she just attacks them blindly. Sometimes she stays on the other side of the level totally inert, then powershields and rolls and blizzards her way to safety when she's attacked. I don't care what the level of AI is, just please be consistent.

 

[Speedsk8er]

Broken = unstoppable, unbeatable, or so difficult to overcome that one side uses a disproportionate amount of effort to the other during a match. Tournament results and testing indicate that the infinite is not, in fact, broken according to that definition.

...Enough of that. I think they would need to clean up Nana's AI so she doesn't, without warning, attain super timing on her aerials, dash attacks, dodges, etc. Whether she's a really powerful AI or not isn't really the issue; the problem is she becomes impossible to predict because there are few patterns to her behavior. Sometimes she goes running straight through an opponent to return to Popo; sometimes she just attacks them blindly. Sometimes she stays on the other side of the level totally inert, then powershields and rolls and blizzards her way to safety when she's attacked. I don't care what the level of AI is, just please be consistent.

MAybe somehow make her AI scale with the player's skill? I doubt it's possible but it would be nice.

 

[WFL]

A third Ice Climber...lol jk.

More of Nana trying to disrupt the opponents edge-guard, being able to squall hammer recovery by herself (just realized she couldn't do this), having a button or button combination to tell Nana to come and try to help Popo recover.

Just some things that improve control of Nana or the overall Ice Climber's game.

 

[chu12ch]

Not gonna happen, but it would be really cool if you could switch climbers in game...
it's not like ur Popo ft. Nana, you chose ice climbers, you should be able to use both...

 

[Xephalon]

ICs could be like able to switch control of either climber, like have popo do something, press a button, then control nana. get what im saying?

 

[psicicle]

howabout making nana stop deciding to taunt for no reason? Seriously, sometimes it is completely unexpected like this one time I was jumping up through a platform to do an arial and nana was somehow left behind on the platform taunting when popo went through and did the arial by himself.

 

[Mr.Jaskolski]

The title says it all.

I only thing that I would like to see done is make it so that tilts knock opponents out of Popo's grasp. Wobbling is broken.

There not gonna be in Brawl lol

 

[FrozenHobo]

Has that been confirmed? i mean, i've heard the rumors too but i thought that they were just that: rumors.

i heard that they were also considering getting rid of Mr. G&W and Young Link too.

 

[1048576]

I always thought broken was a programming flaw which produced an overpowered technique or character. If the programmers didn't intend for Nana's tilts to trap the opponent in an infinite, then by that definition, Wobbling is broken. Yeah, either make tilts knock the opponent out of Popo's grasp, or make the tilts really laggy. Maybe also make it possible to choose which direction Nana throws the opponent.

I like the Ice Climbers the way they are. Just kill the ridiculously easy infinite and they will be balanced. I don't like the idea of improving Nana's recovery. That would make it really hard to kill her and perhaps make the IC's a bit overpowered.

 

[FrozenHobo]

Simply allowing Nana a better recovery (meaning any recovery by herself) would not necessarily make the ICs too powerful; it would just allow them to not be KOd so easily.

As it has been stated many times before by much better players than myself, the ICs are floaty when separate and easily KOd. If Nana can recover by using either smash b or even an air dodge, it would give the ICs a better chance to recover and actually put up a fight after being sent flying.

On the subject of the infinate, i agree with you whole heartedly and believe that by fixing this cheap trick it would even out their game and make them a more "fair" character(s?).

 

[Mic_128]

Has that been confirmed? i mean, i've heard the rumors too but i thought that they were just that: rumors.

i heard that they were also considering getting rid of Mr. G&W and Young Link too.

It's totally fake, 100%

 

[Zeela12]

how about a different controling method in general? like u can temporaly controll each one of the 2, or just simply be able to controll Nana to a degree easily.

 

[Fawriel]

Improvements:

Nana's AI needs fixing. I don't need to elaborate on this. The two characters combined are an EXTREMELY powerful force, but Nana's idiocy breaks it all.

Nerfs:

No chain-throwing or wobbling.


I really think that's enough. As I said, the two are just insanely strong when combined, and if they lose this uncontrollability caused by Nana, through means of desynchronization and synchronization at will, they'd still remain a character with a whole frikkin lot of potential.

 

[FrozenHobo]

their chain throws are fine. the only really bad part is the AI for Nana, like you said.

 

[psicicle]

yeah, unless you're sheik you can get out of them relatively easily

 

[alpha n00b]

How about we seperate them?, the're broken when together, pluse, it's freaky to see them "fused" together.

 

[FrozenHobo]

are you crazy? being fused together as one charecter is what makes them so great. by spliting them up you eliminate their de-syncing, chain throws, pretty much everything that makes them great.

however, i would like a b up attack that works with one climber by itself.

 

[FrozenHobo]

there final smash could be a full stage blizzard that works like articuno in ssbm.

 

[DokturSea]

Well, first I'd like it to be implemented that they not be called "Iceys".


Second, I'd just like for them to return period. I honestly cannot understand why people are so positive they'll get the boot.

 

[FrozenHobo]

Well, first I'd like it to be implemented that they not be called "Iceys".

ICs (iceys) is just slang used by most people rather than saying their full name (which is very long). i don't think people will ever stop refering to them as ICs, ever.

Second, I'd just like for them to return period. I honestly cannot understand why people are so positive they'll get the boot.

seriously, everybody is saying they're out. its gonna be so funny when they are in and every IC player in the world will laugh in unison and proclaim "we win, b****es. Ha, ha, ha!" *evil laugh*


on a side note, i hope they don't come back as one of those trophy things. that would suck.