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What secondaries are best to choose from to deal with Samus' hardest matchups?

NeXi2

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I was thinking Mario since he deals with mewtwo pretty well but mewtwo is the only real hard counter to samus I know. Any suggestions?
 

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I'd say that's plenty enough, but be sure to match your skill with your primary. It's not only about matchups, you gotta outplay your opponent. Work hard man. #WeBelieve
 

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G&W covers pretty much all of samus's weaker match ups, but because of both fire and ice, samus has the tools to deal with any match up really
 

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Kirby's pretty tough, but you can clank their dash attack with a boost ball.
um, Sheik always sucks.
Mario's also tough, don't get caught in fireball city.
 

Litt

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Kirby's pretty tough, but you can clank their dash attack with a boost ball.
um, Sheik always sucks.
Mario's also tough, don't get caught in fireball city.
Nah Sheik is easy after learning the melee match up, as for kirby, just go ice move and do not approach, and wall kirby out with fairs if he goes in the air, and if he stays on the ground, low angled forward tilts into jab pressure when you can. Mario, squirtal, TLink and Ike are the only match ups I found to be just flat out unfair on a number of fronts against samus, but know, no match up is unwinable.
 

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Nah Sheik is easy after learning the melee match up, as for kirby, just go ice move and do not approach, and wall kirby out with fairs if he goes in the air, and if he stays on the ground, low angled forward tilts into jab pressure when you can. Mario, squirtal, TLink and Ike are the only match ups I found to be just flat out unfair on a number of fronts against samus, but know, no match up is unwinable.
IKE?? I'm not sure if I agree with that. Elaborate.
 

Litt

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Ike on a small stage if he just reacts can cover every single option samus has when she is on ledge
 

Litt

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Hmm looks like I'm banning them small stages. hah
Legit only option I found was to let go to ledge, DI towards the stage, then rising zair, so I wouldn't grapple the stage and my zair would hit ike, even still though, it didnt put me in that good of a position
 

Kaysick

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I use Kirby and Meta Knight as secondaries. Kirby is really only meant for very specific MUs like Ike, ROB, Yoshi for me.
 

Chevy

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Legit only option I found was to let go to ledge, DI towards the stage, then rising zair, so I wouldn't grapple the stage and my zair would hit ike, even still though, it didnt put me in that good of a position
I would try ledge hop -> immediately air-dodge to bait attack -> zair.
 
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