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What Melee Stages Where Legal In 2002 And Higher
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20XXwingleborgXxx
Smash Apprentice
Pokefloats and kongo jungle used to be legal, but jungle japes is still legal in teams.
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20XXwingleborgXxx
Smash Apprentice
Found this ruleset at reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/2p4b7r/whats_the_oldest_ruleset_for_melee_tournaments/
2004 MBR Ruleset:
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Advanced Slob Picks
Random: Battlefield, Yoshi's Story, Dreamland 64, Final Destination, Fountain of Dreams, Pokemon Stadium
Non-Random: Peach's Castle, DK Rap, Brinstar, Corneria, Mute City, Onett, Mushroom Kingdrom, DK 64, Rainbow Cruise, Jungle Japes, Yoshi's Island, Green Greens, Pokefloats, Big Blue, MK2
Banned: Hyrule Temple, Yoshi 64, Venom, Flatzone, Brinstar Depths, Icicle Mountain, Fourside, Termina
One stage ban
All sets 2/3 except finals 3/5
Yes, they did random for the first stage back then.
2004 MBR Ruleset:
No Items
Advanced Slob Picks
Random: Battlefield, Yoshi's Story, Dreamland 64, Final Destination, Fountain of Dreams, Pokemon Stadium
Non-Random: Peach's Castle, DK Rap, Brinstar, Corneria, Mute City, Onett, Mushroom Kingdrom, DK 64, Rainbow Cruise, Jungle Japes, Yoshi's Island, Green Greens, Pokefloats, Big Blue, MK2
Banned: Hyrule Temple, Yoshi 64, Venom, Flatzone, Brinstar Depths, Icicle Mountain, Fourside, Termina
One stage ban
All sets 2/3 except finals 3/5
Yes, they did random for the first stage back then.
That is so unfair lmao I love the new ruleset.
ChrisWithAk
Smash Cadet
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Is that mushroom kingdom with the breakable blocks or mk2 the one you fight dr mario on in all star?
ECHOnce
Smash Lord
Jesus, all of those are open as counterpicks and you only get one stage ban? Scary world to live in lmao
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Gotem City Vigilante
ECHOnce
Smash Lord
Just double-checked and noticed that both are featured. "Mushroom Kingdom" is the 7th listed, "MK2" is the last one. Not sure how I missed it the first time too lol
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Onett and green greens were legal up until 2006 depending on the region. Cruise and Brinstar were legal until the end of 2011.
When [usually new] players complain about stages, I take them to any banned stage. Then I abuse the fault to the maximum and make them never want to return to the stage.
Its easy to say, e.g., pokemon stadium should be banned, when you don't have fresh memory of how bad competition is on the 20+ banned stages.
When [usually new] players complain about stages, I take them to any banned stage. Then I abuse the fault to the maximum and make them never want to return to the stage.
Its easy to say, e.g., pokemon stadium should be banned, when you don't have fresh memory of how bad competition is on the 20+ banned stages.
I played originally from late 2006 to early 2008. Random first stage was the worst. It was such a nice change when I came back in 2013.
You ban before the random stage, so people would check it off in the stage select. Some people would just L+R+A+start when you got a banned stage from the random (instead of unchecking them in the random stage list), so sometimes your random stage was messed up (a stage or two might be off of the random list).
Random is also rigged to have very low chance to double up on the same stage and I think it favours stages that get added to the list. That's all speculation, though.
Mute city vs puff / peach was the worst thing ever. I don't think the stage list I played with was as bad as that 2004 rule set, but it was pretty bad.
You ban before the random stage, so people would check it off in the stage select. Some people would just L+R+A+start when you got a banned stage from the random (instead of unchecking them in the random stage list), so sometimes your random stage was messed up (a stage or two might be off of the random list).
Random is also rigged to have very low chance to double up on the same stage and I think it favours stages that get added to the list. That's all speculation, though.
Mute city vs puff / peach was the worst thing ever. I don't think the stage list I played with was as bad as that 2004 rule set, but it was pretty bad.
ChrisWithAk
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There were 6 on random, the 6 currently legal stages. Then on CP was a whole bunch of stuff.
Also
SAUS
each player got a mulligan as well as a stage ban. Mulligan meaning, if you randomed stage fox vs marth and got FD, you could L+R+START and re-random. If it went FD again, you had to play it. Stage bans were still done after game 1 I think
Also
SAUS
each player got a mulligan as well as a stage ban. Mulligan meaning, if you randomed stage fox vs marth and got FD, you could L+R+START and re-random. If it went FD again, you had to play it. Stage bans were still done after game 1 I think
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Gotem City Vigilante
A mulligan? Damn lol, never heard of that when I was active in the NC scene around that time.
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I dont think thats what it was called, but thats basically what it was. L+R+A start on the random
Ya that is the correct stage list. There were many counterpicks - mute city, pokefloats, brinstar were all legal counterpicks. This is not quite how it worked where I played, at least. The order was like:There were 6 on random, the 6 currently legal stages. Then on CP was a whole bunch of stuff.
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1) RPS to ban second.
2) Random from the 6 neutrals minus any banned ones.
3) The rest is the same as now without any more bans, except with several more counterpick stages. I think you could also choose to random stage again to character lock your opponent but I don't think anyone ever did that to me lol.
Man, that's like 10 years ago. I feel old now.