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What is with kirbys short hop?

psykoplympton

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I am a kirby player and i am triing to learn to shoirt hop with him. I can do it with any other character but it is really hard to do with kirby. Why?
 

Buttcrust

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Fox is the toughest, but Kirby is pretty tough as well. I think to SH you need to depress the jump button for half or less of the frames it takes the character to leave the ground. Kirby jumps quickly I guess.

I know Fox jumps in 4 frames. That means you can only have the jump button depressed for 2 frames... or one.
 

technomancer

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Kirby plays quite a bit slower as well, and doesn't rely on a rhythmic shffl, so you might be having problems with that.

For shorthops, you just have to release the button a frame before they get in the air. Fox is airborne on frame four, so you have to release on frame 2 so it will register for frame 3 and you'll shorthop. I think Kirby is just one frame slower.
 

Buttcrust

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Kirby plays quite a bit slower as well, and doesn't rely on a rhythmic shffl, so you might be having problems with that.

For shorthops, you just have to release the button a frame before they get in the air. Fox is airborne on frame four, so you have to release on frame 2 so it will register for frame 3 and you'll shorthop. I think Kirby is just one frame slower.
Ahh. I just read that Fox took 4 and you had to let go by 2. This makes more sense.
 

nitro-blazer

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Doesn't Kirby have the same short hop frames as Fox? I may be mistaken, but I remember something like that when reading Mew2Kings huge stats page. (Took a good hour and a half to read. :laugh:)
 

t!MmY

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Kirby's jumping animation is 4 Frames - same as Fox. I know this because he fires Fox Lasers with the same timing.

For some reason, I picked up on Fox's Short Hop almost immediately but found Kirby's harder. It might be because I started with Kirby, and when I started playing around with Fox I had already practiced with a "hard" short-hopper.
 

psykoplympton

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What button do you normally press to do it, x or up on the control stick. I am starting to get the hang of it with x.
 

t!MmY

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I originally used X for everything - remnants of the c-buttons on the N64 controller to jump probably. Recently I've been using Y because it's closer to the B-button.

The difference between X and Y is probably minimal for Kirby players, but I like to play many other characters as well. I never use the control stick for short hops though... unless I'm fooling around or just practicing it for no reason at all.
 

psykoplympton

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I've got it down now andi checked on your competetive kirby guide, saw the drills you gave and tryied them. The tips in there are very useful.
 
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