What happened on this shieldbreak? [SOLVED]

[FartyParty]

At 1:38 into this video I break this player's shield which pops them up onto the platform, I jump up to the platform, and only a second after the shieldbreak they've suddenly recovered and drop off the platform.

 

[Xelrog]

A very similar thing happened to me, and I asked about it in the mechanics board. Apparently entering a falling state now instantly ends the stun.

 

[FartyParty]

A very similar thing happened to me, and I asked about it in the mechanics board. Apparently entering a falling state now instantly ends the stun.

Well that's weak as hell.

 

[kraw23]

That doesn't seem quite right, considering if you break a shield right at the ledge and they fall off they will stay stunned all the way to the blast zone. Looks like you have to break the shield, have the character land and start the standing stunned animation, then get pushed off a ledge for this to happen.

 

[Arrei]

That doesn't seem quite right, considering if you break a shield right at the ledge and they fall off they will stay stunned all the way to the blast zone. Looks like you have to break the shield, have the character land and start the standing stunned animation, then get pushed off a ledge for this to happen.

That's what he intended to say, yeah. It seems like characters can be pushed off a ledge while they are in any state where they're not firmly standing on the ground, as they can also be shoved off if you run into them while they're bouncing on the ground from failing to tech out of tumble. This has probably just become much easier to accidentally do now that bodies cannot be dashed through.

 

[Xelrog]

So if we had waited for the animation to start proper we could have walked them over the ledge? Have either of you confirmed this?

 

[FartyParty]

So if we had waited for the animation to start proper we could have walked them over the ledge? Have either of you confirmed this?

I just checked in training and once they stand up while stunned, you can't push them off a platform or ledge at all.

 

[Xelrog]

I just checked in training and once they stand up while stunned, you can't push them off a platform or ledge at all.

That's kind of what I thought would be the case, since you can't push someone off an edge by walking into them when they're not stunned anymore.

 

[Arrei]

Once they've gotten up, they're considered firmly standing on the ground, so they can't be pushed off. I'm curious just how many states this applies to, though - for example, opponents can be shoved off while bouncing on the ground or while prone on the ground, but what about during get-ups, whether neutral, rolling, or attacking? How about when slipping from a banana, or sitting on their tush after said banana? Maybe when put to sleep, even?