WatchfulComa24
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I need a secondary that can cover some matchups diddy sucks at
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I fail to see how Diddy struggles in those MUs. Elaborate please?Meta Knight. Covers pretty much all of Diddys bad MUs (Rosa/Villager/Olimar/Ness etc.)
I only have a little bit of Olimar experience but those are definitely some of our harder matchups. The only one we outright lose is Rosa, but the rest require us to work a lot harder than usual.I fail to see how Diddy struggles in those MUs. Elaborate please?
Villager and Ness definitely don't give me much trouble. We run circles around those kiddos. And our damage output on them after a grab is still better than any of their traps. Ness kills us off much earlier, sure. But unless he can effectively trap us, he's not winning.I only have a little bit of Olimar experience but those are definitely some of our harder matchups. The only one we outright lose is Rosa, but the rest require us to work a lot harder than usual.
I think Sheik being one of if not our hardest matchup is a given at this point, but Diddy also does better against her than most other characters do. With regards to Mario, the more I play the matchup the more I like it, I don't think it's in Mario's favour at this point so I'd put it in a similar vein as Ness and maybe Villager. You just have to play super safe and avoid landing directly on top of him, you should only really die in this matchup if you do something wrong or your opponent makes a good read.Villager and Ness definitely don't give me much trouble. We run circles around those kiddos. And our damage output on them after a grab is still better than any of their traps. Ness kills us off much earlier, sure. But unless he can effectively trap us, he's not winning.
And I still fail to see how we are beaten by Rosalina so badly... Maybe am just good at the overall matchup, cause I know how to handle Luma really well, but it was always (before the first nerf patch) a solid advantageous matchup for us because we could kill her so easily. With buffed U Smash being a real reliable kill option, I don't see why we'd have to struggle much.
Pikachu, Mario and Sheik seem harder than all these for me.
The only problem with having Fox as a secondary is that he shares the same bad MU's as Diddy Kong except Villager. He loses badly against Rosalina. Mario and Luigi win the MU but not by much. Diddy however has a better MU against the top tiers like Sheik and ZSS than Fox does. I play Fox because of his good kill confirms and combos but honestly I would go with a character that can cover Diddy's bad MUs like Sheik, ZSS, or Ryu.I also really like Fox. How does he fare vs the Mario Bros. and Rosalina? Apparently Zinotto also stated that Meta Knight is a good secondary
I believe that Diddy Kong's biggest weaknesses are Rosalina, Sheik, and to an extent Villager. I don't think ZSS is that big of a threat to Diddy as Rosa and Sheik are. I think ZSS still wins but not by much. Honestly, I think MK and Sheik are the best choices overall due to MK's advantage over Rosa (imo Diddy's worst MU) and pretty good against the majority of the cast. Sheik is probably the best choice overall for obvious reasons but you said you aren't very good with her so I'd recommend MK since MK gets the job done against his worst MU considerably better than any other character you mentioned.So what we can conclude is that the best secondaries for Diddy are : MetaKnight, Sheik, Zero Suit Samus and Ryu? How about Ryu actually? What matchups does he cover Diddy is bad at? I don't like the time investment in the character to make him a secondary, also, I don't like him. Sheik is an obvious choice, but I don't like playing as her either (I seriously suck at playing Sheik, no joke, I tried).
Now what about Zero Suit Samus? She's not better at the Sheik matchup am quite sure, but does she beat Rosalina, Pikachu and Mario? Those are my biggest worries for Diddy advancement.
And how about Pikachu as a secondary? Is he worth the pain and stuggle of learning to play as a secondary? He also seems like a pain to learn, but not quite like Ryu.
Fox is fun yes, but I'd rather risk the bad matchups using Diddy.
I gotta say however I always win a lot vs Rosalina while I am using Ike. Ike is a secondary I feel very confident in for myself skill-wise. But he can't beat Top Tiers, that's a fact. Maybe if I would invest as much time into Meta Knight as I did with Ike I can cover my matchups better?
Characters I'm considering as secondary:
Current secondaries am confident in:
Characters am learning / am moderately skilled at:
If I'd drop all these 7 characters to learn just would that be better to improve my wins as a main? Btw, I'd rather just use than all those characters combined.