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Well, it took me long enough...

SkylerOcon

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I've finally got videos of my (mediocre) Mario.

vs. Arturito_Burrito

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbKSya-XpEk&feature=channel_page
The beginning of this one is horrible, but I end up winning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxfs8rj6w44&feature=channel
Meh. I did okay. He got me with an Fsmash mindgame at the beginning though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrvLsEM944I&feature=channel
Shouldn't have lost this time. I got lazy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiuvGpHVp0c&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN92bmXZuM4&feature=channel


Arturo and I are pretty much even so, yeah. Enjoy/Critique/Comment/Whatever.

(And yes I'm doing this after HeroMystic posted his, because he's a trend setter!)
 

Matt07

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Nice Mario overall. Good use of u-air chains.

I think my advice is try to use n-air more it's actually a really good move, with good priority. I also like how you recovered you were unpredictable a lot of times which is good, because well you didn't get ledgeguarded :laugh:.

After watching those videos, Ike's jabs are amazing O.o.
 

HeroMystic

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After watching those videos, Ike's jabs are amazing O.o.
Yeah, Ike's jabs are the best jabs in the game (no joke). They're even better than Snake's. His jabs are ONLY reason why Mario doesn't have a huge advantage over him.

I'll watch your vids later, Skyler. I'm kinda bushed.

EDIT:
(And yes I'm doing this after HeroMystic posted his, because he's a trend setter!)
**** right I am. ;)

And I wouldn't bash your (mediocre) Mario. Burrito is a **** good Ike player, probably one of the top ones. You winning against him is actually a good thing.
 

SkylerOcon

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Dur hur hur he's one of the best.

At least I know I'm prepared for the other two good Ike's in the world.
 

HeroMystic

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General:

-Ike's jabs were ****** you with his jab cancels. I dunno why you guys haven't noticed this, but you can Up-B out of his jab cancels and if you DI upward you can Up-B through his jab combo.
-Every time you went to edgeguard Ike it was always with the cape, when an aerial can do just as well if not better. Keep in mind FLUDD ***** Ike's recovery as well.
-Going to the ledge to stay away from Ike is a very bad idea. Ike has a very good ledge pressure game, and Mario doesn't have a very effective ledge game against characters with massive range, which would Ike would fall in. Stay in the middle of the stage and dodge his attacks.
-Too much U-tilt reliance. I know Ike's ground game wrecks ours, but you can still use Mario's ground game effectively. Jab cancels, grabs (didn't see this much), and N-air combos would've added in more damage than U-tilts.

Video 1:
-I'll blame the stage on this one. Luigi's Mansion is a bad place to take Ike since it hinders Mario's aerial game, which is pretty bad considering Ike has an excellent ground game. However, it's not impossible to get around it. When you broke the stage you really should've been wrecking him.

Video 2:
-When Ike fell in the water, you should've used an F-air instead of falling into his Aether. Ike has a really good spike and is probably the best water-spiker in the game, but he was fully open for an F-air by you and you were scared away.

Video 3:
-Work a bit on your recovery. When you stalled you made yourself obvious and Ike was able to speed-hog you. You can cape stall up to three times or don't do it at all. Our Up-B is fast, so opponents can't speed-hog on reaction.

Video 4:
-You were doing well in the beginning then you started to falter. Don't let up the pressure when fighting Ike and he's in the air. Continue to get him to the edge where you can gimp him.

Video 5:
-You made yourself open to an Aether spike when you went for a Cape edgehog at the end. Bad idea, because reverse Aether doesn't spike people off the ledge.

Final Comment:

USE MOAR N-AIR!.

That's all I got. Hope that helps.
 
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