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we should keep the talk of new techniques to a minimum

dtams

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They have limited the AT's as we know them and they have even slowed down the game a bit. All I am saying is that we shouldn't forget the AT's they are the basis, but brawl will present us with an abundant amount new Tactics to discover. You see be going to E-4-all and demonstrating your Hardcore skillz you may have missed some subtle new tactics, because you were so intent on doing the old tactics. This is not a slap in the face of anyone, we all get a myopic sometimes especially when we think we are the best at something and a lot of us here think we are the best. Like me for example without AT's I am the best Smash players out there....I think...
 

Mama

Smash Ace
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They have limited the AT's as we know them and they have even slowed down the game a bit. All I am saying is that we shouldn't forget the AT's they are the basis, but brawl will present us with an abundant amount new Tactics to discover. You see be going to E-4-all and demonstrating your Hardcore skillz you may have missed some subtle new tactics, because you were so intent on doing the old tactics. This is not a slap in the face of anyone, we all get a myopic sometimes especially when we think we are the best at something and a lot of us here think we are the best. Like me for example without AT's I am the best Smash players out there....I think...
Well actually the reason for going to E for All was to test what advanced techniques were possible. All but wave dashing was in. L-canceling was made automatic (probably only for the demo) everything else was more or less in tact or improved in the case of edge hogging. And theres more to advanced techniques than simply moves. There are tactics and thought processes not obvious at a glance. I responded in depth in your thread. Please take the time read it. And if I come off as rude, I'm not trying to lol. I just have my own typing style. If you take the time out to read my "essay" then I think you'll understand what I'm getting at.
 

Byron X

Smash Journeyman
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Do you even know what advanced techniques are? Do you honestly see them as a magical door that = win all the time? That they're watching out for this witch craft and want to eliminate it from the game? You need to do some research. As I've said before the only thing really eliminated was wave dashing due to a new physics engine. Sakurai did not say "Hm people are getting clever at this game. Lets make it ********." I think you may have forgotten that Brawl was developed by people who played Melee a helluva lot. Advanced play is not magic. Its skill. Respond.
QFT

Mama "The Smash Psychologist" FTW!!
 

yoshi_fan

Smash Ace
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Kind of a rant but here goes anyways...

They removed something that they knew we loved, them removing wavedashing didn't accomplish anything. They don't want the game to be seriously competitive and they seriously think we, the .08% of the smash audience will make an impact online. Seriously, not cool. I was going to be nice and respect the newbs. But no, because your trying to make the game less pleasing for me I'm going online to destroy newbs. (Yeah I know I'm venting but I'm really upset about this) Seriously those newbs are going to get Chain Throwed, Comboed, it's not even going to be a game. I'm going to teach Nintendo a lesson, not to take away our **** because we're better then the casuals (at the game) and that's something they (Nintendo) just has to accept. Seriously! Trying to make the game eaiser... Auto sweet spot ledge, easier to catch items, characters only playable with items, no wavedashing, possibly no L-Canceling. You guys can't catch everything! You guys won't catch the wobble!
You pro are really the **** of society

Stop being preponteus (ARG, HOW IS THIS WORD SPELLD X_X)

And yeah, now is when someone says: Where is your Wdash now eh?

A friend of mine is better than me: he can chainthrow me, combo and detroy me... but he cant do the wavedash correctly and don't use it well. So the matches are very equal because i use the wavedash pretty well. I know he is gonna be happy because he will yuse his real potential now, without exploits or glitches.
 

Titan05

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Your conclusion is correct but the manner you arrived at it seems a bit faulty.
 

The Hypnotist

Smash Lord
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You sound a tad fail seriously lol. Casey was right >.> You need to learn how to ...erm...think? I dunno but you're not to bright if you honestly believe that. Easy catch items helps the casuals yes. But something they aren't likely to utilize is the ability to catch an item and do an aerial at the exact same time (which you can now do) that qualifies as advanced play bud. You think that they're trying to make the game less competitive. I think you've got a case of the scrub mind going on.
Casey fails, and I was ranting at night. And I'm a lot brighter than Casey, Geomerty Senior year... Who the heck are you?

They are trying to make the game less competitive, why else would they remove wavedashing and l-canceling and not have a ranking system. They don't want to acknowledge talent in gaming.
 

The Hypnotist

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God almighty!!!! You god**** concieted *******! All I've ever read in this entire thread is you acting like the ****ing big man on campus! And then you say you're "going to pwn noobs so hard" or some **** like that because Sakurai didn't cater to you...

GROW A ****ING PAIR AND STOP WHINING LIKE A ****TARD!!! God you piss me off so badly! Every post you make is some ego boost for you about how god****ed good you are and about how everyone else sucks and blah blah blah! Hell, at least a good 90% of the adv. players on here aren't as god****ed egomaniacal as you are!

Rant done.

:mad:
Calm down, I was just ranting at night, I even said that before, some of it was a joke. And I don't think everyone else sucks, I'm not even that good, I'm an average player that uses ATs. Odds are your better then me, I'm just thinking it's possible that Nintendo is trying to soften the blow (which a lot of people here think) which is stupid IMO.
 

Red Exodus

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I'm still up for 4-99 stocking newbs though, nothing beats owning people anonymously. It's like anger management, only funner.
 

KIngGerudo

Smash Lord
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Casey fails, and I was ranting at night. And I'm a lot brighter than Casey, Geomerty Senior year... Who the heck are you?

They are trying to make the game less competitive, why else would they remove wavedashing and l-canceling and not have a ranking system. They don't want to acknowledge talent in gaming.
i want everyone here to see that this is a very pathetic attempt at saving face. Attacking someones real life to try and make themselves look good is the work of a scrub; you come off as a complete d*** sucking motherf*****, but with your logic I can make it go away by saying I was ranting or jk. I lawl at the last sentence in your defense. Talent will not be measured if you can use AT's, now it will be who can win with the least amount of them, so crying about them wont make them come back. Sakurai wants the game to be fair. No ranking means it will be. I know Mama, he is a very intelligent person and takes into consideration what people say, so if he finds flaws in what you say, then its flawed.

Saying the game isnt competitive without playing it yet is stupid. I embrace the fact that it will be different. It allows me to develop new skills thus making me a better player. Get used to not being able to do certain AT's. If you cant, then Brawl just isnt the game for you, so just keep playing Melee
 

Sliq

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The amount of fail and butthurt in the brawl boards has me prepared for the apocalypse.
 
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