We all can agree that...

[The Hypnotist]

As of now, all the characters that are being shown on the dojo are starters. The only reason we are sometimes seeing "Warning new challenger approaching" is because they are actually a newcomer. Meaning Pokemon Trainer and Diddy Kong are newcomers so they had the label, while Peach (or Bowser) is a vetran so she didn't have this label. This also explains why we haven't seen snake because he will be unlockable. It also explains why we haven't heard anything about Luigi and Jiggs, because they will most likely be unlockable.

Discuss.

 

[Leobenmc]

Complete agreement. And no doubt, after December 3rd for USA (or rumoured Nov 22nd for Japan), they'll release an unlockable character per week. Twould be unfair if the sites waited until the European release date to reveal the information, that'd be sometime in May sadly

 

[IllidR]

Although I don't disagree that they may very well be starters, they may not be. We don't know any of Sakurai's intentions and he's unpredictable. Only if he said they were starters we'd be sure. There are certain things left open like, why did Metaknight arrive late?

 

[iMichael]

Yeah I agree that thats those are some of the starting characters...Just cant wait to play as Wario

 

[Florida]

It also explains why we haven't heard anything about Luigi and Jiggs, because they will most likely be unlockable.

Actually, didn't Sakurai say that if Luigi and Jigglypuff were going to be included in the game, they'd end up being starter characters this time around? Anyways, no arguments here. The fact that Metaknight is a starter also gives King Dedede a chance to appear as an unlockable, >.> or maybe that's just me hoping.

 

[maxpower1227]

I don't know about you guys, but I personally plan to unlock everyone anyway, so I don't really care who is unlockable and who is available from the start.

 

[Eaode]

I completely agree.



Meta Knight is just stylish.

 

[Bassoonist]

Has Sakurai said each and every one of them is a starter?

 

[Sir James]

I agree with this as well. The theory also coincides with the newest boxart leak that seems official. If you notice, all of the characters on the boxart have already been revealed on the Dojo website. I have a feeling they are on the boxart because they are indeed on the starter roster. We'll get the unlockable characters on the Dojo after it is released in the US and Japan.

 

[MetaKnight'sSword]

I completely agree.



Meta Knight is just stylish.

Stylish?? no...He be pimpin (^^)v

 

[The Hypnotist]

I agree with this as well. The theory also coincides with the newest boxart leak that seems official. If you notice, all of the characters on the boxart have already been revealed on the Dojo website. I have a feeling they are on the boxart because they are indeed on the starter roster. We'll get the unlockable characters on the Dojo after it is released in the US and Japan.

Excellent point.

 

[Jigglymaster]

Well, if we get Solid Snake next week because of the delay on Metaknight you might be wrong because Nintendo said that all 3rd party characters would be secret.

 

[MetaKnight'sSword]

Well, if we get Solid Snake next week because of the delay on Metaknight you might be wrong because Nintendo said that all 3rd party characters would be secret.

so far were only going to have two or three 3rd party characters , including Snake, in this game right?

 

[Limey]

I'm neutral on this. I know Sakurai said on the old version of the site that he'd only reveal starters, but that was a while ago.

One thing i wish people wouldn't do is back up arguments with the 'fact' that only starters are being revealed.

Ultimately, though, i don't really care who is released on the site, so meh.

EDIT - And by that, i don't mean what chatacters, i mean whether they are starters or not.

 

[yoshi_fan]

Agree 100 %

It seems that europe release is february... i think we will se the unlocked characters before the game comes out here.

 

[The Hypnotist]

I never knew Sakurai actually said at a point that he'd only be revealing starters, that's even more of a reason.

 

[TheSpindoctor]

Thats what I thought!

 

[Terywj [태리]]

As of now, all the characters that are being shown on the dojo are starters. The only reason we are sometimes seeing "Warning new challenger approaching" is because they are actually a newcomer. Meaning Pokemon Trainer and Diddy Kong are newcomers so they had the label, while Peach (or Bowser) is a vetran so she didn't have this label. This also explains why we haven't seen snake because he will be unlockable. It also explains why we haven't heard anything about Luigi and Jiggs, because they will most likely be unlockable.

Discuss.

you are 100% correct about that.

 

[Wyvern]

As of now, all the characters that are being shown on the dojo are starters.

We don't know that definitively at all.

I seem to remember hearing that Sakurai once confirmed in an interview that he would be showing all of the characters before Brawl was released, because he knew that anyone who played online or looked anywhere on the internet would be spoiled within hours anyway. He'd rather people hear it from him with a bunch of fanfare. I don't know where that info came from though, so I guess it could technically be a rumor. Does anyone know?

That doesn't definitively prove that he isn't going to save them for the end, but there's no proof that he will, either.

The only reason we are sometimes seeing "Warning new challenger approaching" is because they are actually a newcomer. Meaning Pokemon Trainer and Diddy Kong are newcomers so they had the label, while Peach (or Bowser) is a vetran so she didn't have this label.

I agree. Of course, I'm pretty sure everyone knows by now that those things are just for hype. Wasn't this proved definitively a while ago by showing the differences between various languages' versions of that image? Anyway, just because the sign doesn't mark secret characters doesn't prove that the characters aren't secret.

This also explains why we haven't seen snake because he will be unlockable. It also explains why we haven't heard anything about Luigi and Jiggs, because they will most likely be unlockable.

We haven't seen Captain Falcon or Ness yet either. Does that mean they're going to be secret characters this time around? I'm sure Sakurai just likes to keep some veterans under wraps so we don't get to a point where we know every single character update from now on will be a newcomer. Think about it...if he had done all the veterans before starting the newcomers, then we would have known who was removed earlier than he might have intended. Besides, we already have three confirmed Mario characters (four if you count Yoshi) and two confirmed Pokemon characters on the site...maybe Sakurai wants to spread out the franchises. (Note that the franchises that previously only had one character on the site--Kirby and DK--have had the last two character updates. The only loners left are Fox and Ike, and since I doubt that Marth or Roy will be returning, Fire Emblem will probably stay behind for a while yet. One of the next two character updates will be Krystal; I'm calling it right now.)

And as for Snake, he doesn't prove anything. Meta Knight, regardless of his unlockable status, wasn't shown until just now. Snake's lack of appearance could be just as random. Furthermore, Sakurai could easily treat the third-party characters differently from regular secret characters. All third-party characters are secret characters, but that doesn't mean that all secret characters will be treated the same as third-party characters. Besides, Sakurai showed Snake in the very first trailer. Obviously he can't be that obsessive about keeping secret characters secret.

It's certainly possible that all the characters so far have been starters, but there are no grounds to call it fact.

 

[red stone]

there are only 2 spots left for characters btw...

 

[Darkurai]

there are only 2 spots left for characters btw...

That's bull.
Once those two slots are filled, Sakurai will do what he ALWAYS does.
ADD ANOTHER ROW.

 

[IllidR]

That's bull.
Once those two slots are filled, Sakurai will do what he ALWAYS does.
ADD ANOTHER ROW.

Thank you, i hate when people are like "Omg! You can't edit spaces on a website so there is no more characters!"

 

[vesperview]

How can you know that if it hasn't been said in the official site?

 

[Bassoonist]

Wyvern, I agree completely with your first statement... but it appears that you're going around stating things that aren't proven as well. "Marth and Roy won't be returning." Okay, you said "maybe", but still I don't see why Marth wouldn't return.

And also, we don't know whether Meta Knight is unlockable or not. It's all assumptions for people who claim him to be a starter/unlockable.

 

[Wyvern]

Wyvern, I agree completely with your first statement... but it appears that you're going around stating things that aren't proven as well. "Marth and Roy won't be returning." Okay, you said "maybe", but still I don't see why Marth wouldn't return.

And also, we don't know whether Meta Knight is unlockable or not. It's all assumptions for people who claim him to be a starter/unlockable.

In regards to Meta Knight, I meant "regardless of whether or not he is unlockable", not "in spite of being unlockable". I'm not saying that he is or isn't; quite frankly I have no idea.

And as for Marth, yeah, that's just a personal prediction on my part more than anything. I just get the sense that Ike is an alternative to nerfing Marth. I thought if I just mentioned Fox, someone would have said "But what about Fire Emblem, that only has one person too and is likely to have more", so I figured I'd just throw it out there ahead of time.

 

[The Hypnotist]

I think Marth could be cut (alt costume) because the casual fan wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Honestly.

 

[shipoffools]

so if all that they are releasing is starters, how many more character updates should we expect until december (if any)? starters from melee havent been announced yet either..ness & CF for example. does this mean they get the boot?

 

[Mike966]

I agree that all characters anounced by now are starters. It's simple, the main point of having unlockables is because they should be unknown, why would sakurai spoil unlockables un the dojo.

And i hope they anounce Captain falcon soon, i want to see how does he look in brawl!

 

[will388]

um.. he wouldnt reveal non-starters, so yeah.. people that are on the site are starters.. snake is most likely not a starter, he wad revealed for the hype

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

I can see it going either way. There really is no proof in either direction. Logically, Sakurai would not reveal characters on the DOJO unless they were available from the start, but you never know. We may have to unlock Mario. O_O

(Unlikely, but we'll see when the game comes out.)

 

[The Hypnotist]

Of course there's no proof, you have to speculate sometimes. Seriously, it possible that Mike Jone s could be in the game. Is it likely... most likely not.

 

[BoG]

You know, as has been done in the past, secret characters were not revealed until after launch, so you can assume that they won't be this time around either. All we've seen are starters, and no Luigi or Jiggs until launch because of the way things are. Just like The Hypnotist said in the beginning. I completely agree.