~Waveshining with Fox~

[straight8]

Anyway, I saw this site at the begining of this year, and w/e..

But I watch a lot of smash videos, and fox was one of the coolest-looking characters. Anyway, i noticed people waveshining, and I thought how amazing that was. But then I tried it and thought that it was impossible. So, I tried it a few more times, changed my play some, and then I was able to do it a couple of times. I can still do it sometimes, and what I do is this:

- I wavedash with the r button and jump with x, so I shine

- move my thumb from b to x and try to do a quick wavedash.

Anyway, my cousin thinks you can do it by going down-up-down on the control stick really fast.

I want to know, how do you waveshine? If you can't waveshine, then just go learn how, it isn't that hard..

 

[Ronin686]

Are you asking how we ourselves waveshine?

I use x and r..

 

[straight8]

I am also asking you have you tried the other way. Also, what practical use is their? I mean, waveshine to grab to uthrow to usmash, but besides that...

 

[SCOTU]

i waveshine at near perfect speed by shining, then moving my thumb from b>x (without sliding) and wavedash w/ x+r.

Try the waveshine>waveshine.
Waveshine (repat as necessary) toward edge>dsmash: the official "get the f*ck off my stage combo"
waveshine>drillshine
waveshine>jab (thunder's combo)
waveshine>nair.
waveshine>whatever you feel like.

 

[Tundravalco]

waveshining with the control stick is totally impractical and way too hard but its possible if you really want to learn how to do it. just keep practicing using X and R i think thats what most people use and thats how i do it. eventually you'll get a kind of rythm for it and remember that sometimes after waveshining you have to take a step or two to get to the other player.

 

[LaserBust]

X+R is the eaisest way. Well for me.. Waveshine after you take yur oppenents stock as a substitution for the taunt.

 

[SCOTU]

not really flashy enough... but i used to practice whatever tech trick i was working on at the time between stocks. and after a while of practicing waveshining, you mind develops a "waveshine button" which is just you thinking "waveshine" while your hands do a waveshine. actually, past that, you don't even think "waveshine" you look to a broader picture, but that's where it starts.

 

[straight8]

I don't really like fox. I think he is cheap w/ his gay usmash. I like to just play him in friendlies though.

And what scotu said about the waveshine button, I have that down for drill shining and wavedashing already. So waveshining shouldn't be too hard.

 

[Dark_Meow1]

Fox takes time, effort and skill to master. However, I waveshine with x and r. It took me forever to get used to it, I actually time it by using the bigger part at the bottom of the R button, same for wavedashing. Its pretty much shine, then wavedash. Don't think waveshine.

 

[SSBZalamander]

i personally find wavedashing pointless, but i have pretty good "shineing" skills and my reflexes are on a different level

 

[Mcscruff]

USE THE SEARCH. Its there for a reason.

 

[RedYoshi92]

I waveshine by using X and R.

 

[Tundravalco]

USE THE SEARCH. Its there for a reason.

now i know you dont mean that because if everyone used the search there would be no new threads at all on any character specific or general forum on smashboards.com. now i dont know about you but a totally dead forum because everything has already been discussed doesnt sound very nice so spam away.

 

[straight8]

USE THE SEARCH. Its there for a reason.

First, I do, and it doesn't always work very well. You can't tell me I'm doing it wrong either.
Second, this is a question about how other people do things, not how to do them.
Third, I thought we aren't supposed to bump old topics.

 

[Kick]

it takes practice. I started learning a while ago. Im still not good at it, but im better now. Still work in progress, but once you know the steps it takes practice. I always managed to play a few stocks in training everyday to work on it. And im pretty sure in a few weeks, i will have it down.

 

[FluxWolf]

I waveshine by sliding my thumb from B > A > X

I would recommend this if you want to easily waveshine fast, though it may be harder to learn and I'm sure the way you are used to works the best. Also I am sure a lot of people can waveshine just as fast without sliding...

My method is also a lot less friendly on your thumb, I have a callous from sliding my thumb across the edges of the buttons so much. >_>

 

[SCOTU]

It's not too difficult to get a waveshine to perfect speed w/o sliding, but it'll take less time to master using the sliding method (but you'll have slower fingers overall). I waveshine w/o sliding at (near) perfect speed, and can't do it w/ sliding because it's too fast, and now i have really fast fingers. It's kinda like the dark side it's faster and easier, but in the long run, i think no sliding is better.

 

[WFL]

I just taught myself how to waveshine like 3 hours ago after my friend taught me how to pillar with falco. I always hated fox because people at school would just spam u-smash and get kills and had no tech skill, but now I'm starting to see how to play a more technical fox. I use x and r to wavedash so I didn't see any reason to change that so I just go shine -> x and r without a slide because I need faster fingers so it helps to not slide). I might actually start to play fox as like a 4th alt behind IC's, Doc, and Falco.

 

[SCOTU]

Actually, note that sometimes just getting kills w/ the usmash is way better than having all the tech in the world. if you're good at using it, the usmash is a really good standalone move. Kill power at low %s, and as fast as a grab. Decent range, and priority. It's just knowing how, when, and how to mindgame into it. Some of the most technical foxen (ie LunInspectre) will just DD>usmash for a kill. Just note that. Now you can get back to practicing tech skill.

 

[Goldkirby]

Wow, I think I'm the odd one out here. I use y and r to wave dash and waveshine. I don't slide my thumbs, I do separate presses for everything.

Also, when short hop, I also use y, and just try and press it quickly. That may be one of the reasons why I am having diffculties short hopping everytime I want to sh.

 

[SCOTU]

No, i'm the odd one out. I use every button on the controller (dpad directions included when playing fox or samus, i rarely play samus). I SH with x,y, and up. If i really feel like it, i shdl out of shield w/ c-up. I don't waveshine w/ y, but keep in mind, some ppl wavedash w/ L, so you're not that far out.

 

[Kick]

i dont slide either, just move those fingers.

 

[straight8]

When I do a regular jump I use the control stick, but I shorthop with x. And I use the M button for my super move (you gotta love 3rd party controllers ).. Jk. I think y would work better wavedashing than x even if you didn't slide your fingers, cause it is just closer to b.

 

[SCOTU]

doesn't matter, i can get my finger to x faster than i need to anyway. fast fingers come from practice and building up. I only slide for jc shines anymore. and if i slide my finger to x, i'll press it while still in hitlag from the shine, so y is unnecessary.

 

[Goldkirby]

When I do a regular jump I use the control stick, but I shorthop with x. And I use the M button for my super move (you gotta love 3rd party controllers ).. Jk. I think y would work better wavedashing than x even if you didn't slide your fingers, cause it is just closer to b.

Yeah, I find waveshining much easier using the y button.



Oh, today I tried using x for shorthop doing the sliding method that someone else had mentions, and dang, it's like 10x easier then shorthopping with the y button for me. I think I have a new way of short hopping now

 

[Silhouette]

if u want to work on waveshine timing then hold down the ctrl stick and shine>wavedash in one spot, rinse, lather, repeat until u have the timing down. then start slight movements during the wavedashes to workout different spacings, this is best for use against characters who fox can consecutively waveshine, link, peach, etc...

i also use y and r to wavedash, x to shorthop. i can wavedash with one hand with samus (i dont play samus) but it takes alot of concentration

 

[SCOTU]

Yeah, I find waveshining much easier using the y button.



Oh, today I tried using x for shorthop doing the sliding method that someone else had mentions, and dang, it's like 10x easier then shorthopping with the y button for me. I think I have a new way of short hopping now

I find that when by the time my finger has pressed y, i haven't even finished the shine hitlag yet. same thing goes for sliding to x.