Wavedashing Issues

[MakoEnergy]

When using most characters, Samus/Shiek being the only exceptions, I can't wavedash more than twice. The issue comes down to Falco: I cannot waveshine to save my life.

Anyone got any tips?

 

[victra♥]

Practice. Take your time and gradually do it faster.

 

[AceDudeyeah]

hmm, when waveshining, can the stick be diagonally-down the entire time? or does the stick have to alternate between down for the shine and diagonal for the wavedash?

 

[MimicMew]

It has to alternate between shine and wavedash. Even if you could you should move it to get more distance with your wavedash. Try learning to wavedash consistently, then wavedash > shine in place(hold down), then wavedash > shine moving, then waveshine in place(hold down), then waveshine moving. I don't know if it works for everyone, but it helped me by first wavedashing then shining to learn the hand movements before having to think about the timing. Hope this helps.

 

[AceDudeyeah]

I got wavedashing down. I also got just one shine to wavedash down. but after the first wavedash after the 1st shine, my 2nd or more shine tends to be a phantasm.

 

[darkatma]

yeah my advice
pay attention to the timings of each character's wavedashes.

Lemme break it down into frames:
60 frames to a second. Each character has a slightly different timing for jumping off the ground.
Sheik, fox, and a few others have 4 frame jumps. those are the fastest and probably the hardest to do.
I believe 5 frames is optimal. Samus has a 5 frame wavedash, same with marth.
falco comes in at 6 frames. That's 1/30th a second difference between the fastest and falco's. which is actually a huge difference. If you're pressing L too early, then it won't register as you're jumping, so when you try to shine, it might come out as a phantasm or something.

 

[MakoEnergy]

yeah my advice
pay attention to the timings of each character's wavedashes.

Lemme break it down into frames:
60 frames to a second. Each character has a slightly different timing for jumping off the ground.
Sheik, fox, and a few others have 4 frame jumps. those are the fastest and probably the hardest to do.
I believe 5 frames is optimal. Samus has a 5 frame wavedash, same with marth.
falco comes in at 6 frames. That's 1/30th a second difference between the fastest and falco's. which is actually a huge difference. If you're pressing L too early, then it won't register as you're jumping, so when you try to shine, it might come out as a phantasm or something.

That's it! Thanks! I think I am too used to pounding on my R-Button to match Samus/Shiek speed (And I can wavedash with those two all day with no problems >.<) I'll try to slow my R-press a little when I am playing Falco.

Thanks for the tip!