Raheem The Dream
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We're voting for the series, not just a game in the series?It seems that nobody looked at the finalists of 2015 edition... We're supposed to vote for series, not a particular game. "Pokémon" and "FIFA" are not a specific game.
I just don't understand why everybody is explaining one's choice ^^
So you think just because something is old, it automatically deserves to be in the Hall? E.T for the Atari was important for being the worst game of all time in the eyes of many, and it set in stone an example of what a game shouldn't be. I suppose it deserves a spot in the Hall then, huh? Galaxy 2, on the other hand, is viewed as one of the greatest games of all time, and redefined the 3D platformer genre. I don't know what you're smoking if that doesn't sound Hall of Fame worthy. It's called the Hall of FAME, not Hall of Importance.Just because something is the best, doesn't make it HoF worth....
You clearly doesn't understand what is the Hall of Fame.... it is not for the newer or the best, it is for the what was most important in the history.
Super Mario Bros. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super Mario Galaxy 2
It may not be better, but it was infinite times more important.... heck, SMB is one of the most important games in history, a top five I would say, maybe the top 1.... so it is definitely a must have for the Hall of Fame.
Super Mario Galaxy 2? Yeah, fun. HoF worth? Hell no.... maybe in 10 years Galaxy 1 will be worth.... Galaxy 2? Nope.
Melee started the competitive scene, yes, but Smash 64 still was a thousand times more important in the history of games.... Melee is "just" an enhanced 64 after all.
Ok then, it is the Hall of "Fame".... but even in 2015 SMB is still more famous than SMG2 could ever imagine.So you think just because something is old, it automatically deserves to be in the Hall? E.T for the Atari was important for being the worst game of all time in the eyes of many, and it set in stone an example of what a game shouldn't be. I suppose it deserves a spot in the Hall then, huh? Galaxy 2, on the other hand, is viewed as one of the greatest games of all time, and redefined the 3D platformer genre. I don't know what you're smoking if that doesn't sound Hall of Fame worthy. It's called the Hall of FAME, not Hall of Importance.
Lets just get them all in the hall of fame!As a Sm4sh fan I completely agree.
More like Brawl fans. The argument was between brawl and 64. Also not necessarily a "flame war". Come on man.Aaaaand Melee players already starting a flame war.
Having an amazing competitive scene that has lasted incredibly long is the real reason why smash is so popular today. That's also why I voted Melee; it's the one sequel that not only sparked the scene but continues to be big. It's stayed alive despite being grassroots and having a rough early start. Even Sm4sh, which is incredibly Nintendo-sponsored, has to share screen time with Melee simply because people really really really enjoy playing Melee.Gaming's biggest crossover is the only thing Smash has above the rest and it'd be best to play that up.
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Why not just Smash 4? It has Mega Man, and will soon have Ryu apparently.I feel like I'm the only one not voting for Smash... theres a lot of important titles that aren't in yet, say, Mega Man, (which is what I voted for) or Street Fighter. While I enjoy Smash more than those series they simply hold more importance.
Meh, probably. It just seems to me that a lot more games/series hold more importance. Maybe I'll make a vote for Melee anyway.Why not just Seriously though, I think you can nominate multiple games, no?
Galaxy 2 took the original formula and perfected it. Galaxy, as great as it was, was flawed. 2 fixed those flaws while adding some things of its own. It was essentially Galaxy+. It did everything Galaxy did, but better. Why do you think Galaxy 2 was the first game to get a Wii U rerelease? If you take a great and make it better, anybody with sense (which I'm assuming you have, don't prove me wrong) would pick the refined version. I'm all too familiar with the history of SMB, "kid", but when it comes down to the game, Galaxy 2 is unfathomably better than SMB. It's not even a fair comparison because of the almost 2-decade gap between them.Ok then, it is the Hall of "Fame".... but even in 2015 SMB is still more famous than SMG2 could ever imagine.
"Galaxy 2, on the other hand, is viewed as one of the greatest games of all time"
No, that's Galaxy 1, Galaxy 2 only took the same great formula created at 1 and repeated it, so if anything G1 deserves the HoF, not G2.
And I never said that a game just needs to be old to be in the HoF, it was not a very bright thing for you to think "Oh, let's put every game in the HoF after they complete 10 years, so every game ever will be there someday"....
Now kid, understand, Super Mario Bros. along with the NES resurrected a dead console market, it was the first game ever to have a dynamic background or something like that if I'm not mistaken, so it was a big technological advancement too....
Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time defined 3D gaming, so those two should definitely be there as well.
Super Mario Galaxy did some innovations with the space mechanics and brought us a game unlike any other before in some ways, so it should deserve the HoF when it gets older. Galaxy 2 didn't innovate anything. Period.
But, if anything, games shouldn't be jumping in there before a GOOD amount of time has passed.... seriously. The people behind this HoF agrees with me.... read the "Longevity" part again.
About the people saying that it is to nominate a series instead of a game.... well, I swear I saw something in their site that hinted me it was to nominate a game, so I did it, but maybe I could have confused something or Idk, I will check it out again....
There's that too, but just how many games have a competitive scene? IMO at least, Smash needs to play up it's unique status as being a crossover game, as that's the core of what makes Smash so popular, influential, and memorable.Having an amazing competitive scene that has lasted incredibly long is the real reason why smash is so popular today. That's also why I voted Melee; it's the one sequel that not only sparked the scene but continues to be big. It's stayed alive despite being grassroots and having a rough early start. Even Sm4sh, which is incredibly Nintendo-sponsored, has to share screen time with Melee simply because people really really really enjoy playing Melee.
If there's anything we should play up, it's that.
Pretty much. Street Fighter II, Donkey Kong, Metal Gear, Metroid, Dragon Warrior/Final Fantasy, Mario 64, Zelda: OoT, GTA, Halo, Double Dragon, Sim City, Star Fox, Mario Kart, CoD, etc.I feel like I'm the only one not voting for Smash... theres a lot of important titles that aren't in yet, say, Mega Man, (which is what I voted for) or Street Fighter. While I enjoy Smash more than those series they simply hold more importance.
Again, it is not about being better, it is about the innovation and/or the importance it had.Galaxy 2 took the original formula and perfected it. Galaxy, as great as it was, was flawed. 2 fixed those flaws while adding some things of its own. It was essentially Galaxy+. It did everything Galaxy did, but better. Why do you think Galaxy 2 was the first game to get a Wii U rerelease? If you take a great and make it better, anybody with sense (which I'm assuming you have, don't prove me wrong) would pick the refined version. I'm all too familiar with the history of SMB, "kid", but when it comes down to the game, Galaxy 2 is unfathomably better than SMB. It's not even a fair comparison because of the almost 2-decade gap between them.
64 and Melee are the most important, 64 started the franchise, and Melee is what made it EXTREMELY popular.Why not vote for all four?
Still. The franchise as a whole needs to be represented. Let's take the pride and elitist side out for a change. Melee didn't make Smash Bros extremely popular for me. It was Brawl. Yet I am not going to tell everyone that both games are equally as important to the success of Smash Bros popularity.64 and Melee are the most important, 64 started the franchise, and Melee is what made it EXTREMELY popular.
4 would be way to new for this, and Brawl is hated by most fans. (I'm not one of them)Still. The franchise as a whole needs to be represented. Let's take the pride and elitist side out for a change. Melee didn't make Smash Bros extremely popular for me. It was Brawl. Yet I am not going to tell everyone that both games are equally as important to the success of Smash Bros popularity.
Your comment is irrelevant because Brawl sold more copies than Melee and on top of that a game being disliked by a small percent of ALL gamers who play Smash Bros games (us) does not further prove 64/Melee deserve it more when literally the whole series should credited.4 would be way to new for this, and Brawl is hated by most fans. (I'm not one of them)
More copies doesn't mean everything, Pac Man for the Atari 2600 is the best selling game on the Atari 2600, and it's considered one of the worst games of all time. Also, by fans, I meant fans that play competitively.Your comment is irrelevant because Brawl sold more copies than Melee and on top of that a game being disliked by a small percent of ALL gamers who play Smash Bros games (us) does not further prove 64/Melee deserve it more when literally the whole series should credited.
Yeah not sure what happened with the quotes. Originally the quote was broken so I had to edit it manually. I guess I just typed it in wrong. Anyways I'll try to correct the quote.Also please respect your fellow users by not purposely editing their usernames when quoting them. I don't want to start to have to hand out infractions.
Aaaaand Melee players already starting a flame war. It's great to see so many fine, upstanding members of the Super Smash Bros. community.
I agree. So fine and upstanding that they became idiots!