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Very Important Roster Theory

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Brandenpunk1

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Ok the dojo has set a pattern here on confirming there veterans. Did you guys notice that all the characters of all 12 veterans confirmed are from the starting roster for both melee and 64. Except for who ... thats right Ness and C. Falcon, why you may ask well, because Ness and C.Falcon were Secret characters in 64. This leads me to believe that there is a direct correlation between C.Falcon and Ness and if there in brawl. Like wise i believe there is a direct correlation between Jiggly puff and Luigi because they were also secret characters in 64 but have not yet (or will ever be) confirmed for brawl. I think whats going to end up happening is all 4 (Ness, C.Falcon, Jiggly Puff, and Luigi) will all be cut from brawl. And if the same trend from 64 to melee happens, all of the secret charades from melee will come back but half will be on the starting roster and half will remain secret unlock-ables.

*I'm not saying i like it I'm just saying when looking at the pattern from the dojo, and past rosters of 64 and melee, this seems very likely.

~ Brandenpunk1
 

Qbuilderz

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it wouldn't be super smash bros with out luigi, hence forth BROS...

...fail, no offence
...and it isn't too important either, theories have been made justlike this one

Have a good day!
 

Chaosblade77

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Or maybe they are just unlockable and he hasn't revealed them.

I think there are some flaws in your logic, since ALL previously unlockable characters are not on the Dojo. If it was just the ones from SSB64, then you might have a point.
 

hunger!

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C.falcon has been confirmed more than one way. Having Samurai Goroh as an AT would be pointless if falcon wasnt in the game....rivals buddy rivals
 

motsalogeL

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Are you joking? Seriously? What characters were cut from 64 the melee? What!? NONE! And to think people believe Luigi and Falcon will be out of the game... hahahahahahaha
 

Regiwi

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So all of the secret characters from Melee, including Pichu and Dr Mario, will be back and Luigi, Captain Falcon, Ness and Jigglypuff will be out?

...

I really don't follow your point, they'll be out so that ALL of Melee's secret characters can return with half of them starters, why would they need to be out if that's the case?
 

motsalogeL

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This game isn't Melee and Sakurai has already stated that not all vets will return
O MY ****ING GOD. Of course this game isn't melee but we cant still base things off of what has happened from 64 to melee and yes not all vets will return but considering he just said the two most popular and likely wouldn't... Jesus.
 

Your Hero

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I completely agreed, until, like the noob legend said, you set "Cut from brawl"

Luigi is in, it's impossible to doubt, and have you tried pre-ordering the game and readinf the definition. JIGGLYPUFF IS IN THE DEFINITION! and snake's voice actor mention wanting to beat up jigglypuff.
 

SlayerOfEvil

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Ok the dojo has set a pattern here on confirming there veterans. Did you guys notice that all the characters of all 12 veterans confirmed are from the starting roster for both melee and 64. Except for who ... thats right Ness and C. Falcon, why you may ask well, because Ness and C.Falcon were Secret characters in 64. This leads me to believe that there is a direct correlation between C.Falcon and Ness and if there in brawl. Like wise i believe there is a direct correlation between Jiggly puff and Luigi because they were also secret characters in 64 but have not yet (or will ever be) confirmed for brawl. I think whats going to end up happening is all 4 (Ness, C.Falcon, Jiggly Puff, and Luigi) will all be cut from brawl. And if the same trend from 64 to melee happens, all of the secret charades from melee will come back but half will be on the starting roster and half will remain secret unlock-ables.

*I'm not saying i like it I'm just saying when looking at the pattern from the dojo, and past rosters of 64 and melee, this seems very likely.

~ Brandenpunk1
Ok, 1. No Luigi = Mass confusion and chaos in the world
2. Ness was taken out because he was REPLACED, not because of some pattern you thought up.
3. FAIL
 

Brandenpunk1

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The theory is the corrilation between all 4 of those charators, if 1 is in brawl there all in brawl and if 1 is out there all out. . . But i do think if they get rid of any charators they will get rid of all 4 of them.
 

DeuceBlade

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I read over a really interesting theory in another thread...

It basically said Ness' moveset was always intended for Lucas, so logically Lucas took on the moveset he would have had anyone had he been in Smash.

Which leaves Ness open for a possible moveset change.

:D
 

Shuma

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if 1 is in brawl there all in brawl and if 1 is out there all out. . .
Ok. Why?

Also, Cap'n Falcon was already confirmed. hint: Go to the Samurai Goroh Page and Look at his icon.

Edit:

Oh also, Idiot.
 

Colino

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I read over a really interesting theory in another thread...

It basically said Ness' moveset was always intended for Lucas, so logically Lucas took on the moveset he would have had anyone had he been in Smash.

Which leaves Ness open for a possible moveset change.

:D
actually the people at jump festa that saw the video with lucas in it said he played in a similair way to Ness, not exactly the same..
 

Rikka

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No. The characters don't have some magical link that says they can't be in if one is out. This has got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read here, as it's you making up a load of crap, calling it fact, and then proclaiming your "theory" likely.
 

motsalogeL

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The theory is the corrilation between all 4 of those charators, if 1 is in brawl there all in brawl and if 1 is out there all out. . . But i do think if they get rid of any charators they will get rid of all 4 of them.
1. Thats... stupid.
2. There was never a "pattern" just a stupid assumption.
3. You are deserving of a STFU if you think C.Falcon or Luigi is out.
 

The Kirby Kong

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Ok the dojo has set a pattern here on confirming there veterans. Did you guys notice that all the characters of all 12 veterans confirmed are from the starting roster for both melee and 64. Except for who ... thats right Ness and C. Falcon, why you may ask well, because Ness and C.Falcon were Secret characters in 64. This leads me to believe that there is a direct correlation between C.Falcon and Ness and if there in brawl. Like wise i believe there is a direct correlation between Jiggly puff and Luigi because they were also secret characters in 64 but have not yet (or will ever be) confirmed for brawl. I think whats going to end up happening is all 4 (Ness, C.Falcon, Jiggly Puff, and Luigi) will all be cut from brawl. And if the same trend from 64 to melee happens, all of the secret charades from melee will come back but half will be on the starting roster and half will remain secret unlock-ables.

*I'm not saying i like it I'm just saying when looking at the pattern from the dojo, and past rosters of 64 and melee, this seems very likely.

~ Brandenpunk1
Why is there a difference between Captain Falcon + Ness and Jigglypuff + Luigi?

Also, where do you get the idea from that all 4 will be cut?

That pattern you think to be seeing is in your head, not on the DOJO.
 

2.72

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The theory is the corrilation between all 4 of those charators, if 1 is in brawl there all in brawl and if 1 is out there all out. . . But i do think if they get rid of any charators they will get rid of all 4 of them.
OK, here's the flaw this your logic. A correlation doesn't necessarily mean anything, or at least not what this line of reasoning says that it means. I can find some connection between any two characters you care to name. Example: both Ness and Bowser were low tier in melee, so if Ness is cut that logically Bowser must be cut also. This is clearly false.
 

Mario77

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You only made this thread to get flamed....

YOU FAIL, You seriously mean there are still people that think LUIGI, and Captain Falcon are being cut?? I can see if you think Ness is gona be cut, and MAYBE Jiggly Jig... BUT LUIGI!! LUIGI!!?!?! BWAHAHAHAHAHA! And Samurai Goroh is an AT so the Captain is in for sure mate!
 

The_Corax_King

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Luigi = in for sure... now way he'd get cut...

Falcon = basically confirmed with icon...

Ness = chances are shaky... dojo hints at his removal, but a lot of people say otherwise...

Jiggly = entirely up to speculation...


The fact that you think NONE will return is ridiculous...
 

Eagle

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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

*inhale*

Ok ok. . .

Maybe they want to keep them secret like they were in 64?
 

OddCrow

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interesting find...poor use of your find however.
Noticing all the confirmed veterans were starters in SSB or SSBM was good.
Saying Jigglypuff, Luigi, Captain Falcon, and Ness were cut from brawl was bad, very bad, in fact only about 12.5% true, Jiggs, Luigi, and C. Falcon, are 100% in, Ness is 50-50 for various confusing and strange reasons.
TC, you fail, not super hard, but you FAIL nonetheless.
 

Machete

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Luigi is in. Captain Falcon is in. If you doubt this, you're an idiot.

Jiggly is in too. Snake's voice actor leaked her.

Ness is most likely out. Sakurai wanted Lucas in Melee and 64; and they have similar movesets. He could be in, though; but I doubt it.
 
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