#HBC | Red Ryu
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I'm gonna look up Vinyl's posts.
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Pointless interaction post with Soup.So you're joining the orbo wagon because he being less active?
I don't even have to ask you if it's because of karth's opinion as I don't think you would agree with him after saying "bull**** posts".
Light push on my slot, no real follow up beyond asking for clarification over and over on Zen`s votes.Reason why you voted orbo, ramen.
@Vinyl: Where are you gonna put your vote? I haven't seen any reads from you. Is it going on Zen?
I say none yet, but zen's been the only one to simply vote orbo without adding anything else.
Don't have reads yet.
Another emptyish post by Vinyl.
Looks made for interaction purposes with Joey than actually having a follow up. Can easily see him buddying people`s obv-town D1 on Joey. (Or just buddying a slot he knows is town (i.e not a scum-mate).
Possible bus on Ryu, who he held as a `too be looked at scum read `and had a slightly odd push on RR later which i`ll bring up.I do have others, soup and Red Ryu, but all I've been seeding from zen is a simple vote. Looks like Kary just voted him so he can pressure zen.
I'll re-read to sum up an vote if that's what you want.
Nooo. I don't want you to vote. I just want your thoughts on some players so I can get where your head is at.
How do you feel about brother and Soup? You said you had thoughts on these two players, but you haven't went into detail about these thoughts. Details would be nice!
Calls RR more faulty than Soup but fails to elaborate on how / why beyondWell, they aren't good details, lol.
Fom the past pages, It looks like RR has made some mess-ups and tries to correct you guys to understand.
Soup has only made a sheeping, as some of you said so. I already asked him if he voted orbo by being inactive and responds that he voted for the sake of voting. He already unvotes orbo because he finds him okay for today.
I feel as if RR is more faulty than soup is right now.
"It looks like RR has made some mess-ups " , Vinyl fails to point these mess ups out and avoids voting what appears to be one his scum picks in RR. Reads to me like Vinyl doing a light bus on Ruy's apparent scumminess without committing a vote to him (IIRC he did that before and quite often this game).
AFAIK Vinyl never did any real follow up on RR( you can correct me if i am wrong on this ), but choose to follow up on Soup.
I don't really care for Vinyl. that much to be honest, he comes around sometimes when he's prodded enough but hasn't done anything substantial, maybe he could change my mind if he threw a vote somewhere and didn't play wishy-washy with all his stances.
Vinyl drop me a comprehensive read list when you can thanksGets forced to out reads after being called scummy by Soup.I haven't done much here, so I'll give out reads in a few.
Another post where Vinyl essentially had to respond and interact.
Ugly @55 reads list , but puts Soup / My slot / RR as scum , but where was the support on the scummy play by RR (IIRC all i remember about Vinyl doing with it was mentioning posts where RR had "messed up". Another possible bus by Vinyl.Soup - Already Gave it out. Not as scummy, but someone to look onto.
Leading Man - Nothing from him. Null.
Uguu - Hasn't done much but has gave out his suspicion on RR, so nulltown.
Kary - Hardcore on things, but a little too direct. A weird feel, actually. Null.
>mfw this hydra - I can't even tell. Null.
RR - Already gave it out, scummy play.
Swords_R - Hasn't done much. Null.
Bardull - Hasn't done much. Null.
Orbo - He's been doing pretty good so far, He responds and gives out question. Still, he should probably be doing a little better than that. Town.
Zen - Random voting without reason is just something I mind a little. Not sure why he's doing this. Null/scum lean.
Gova - Not doing much. Null.
Joey - Town as he gives out some good questions and suspicion. He's the only one that communicated with me mostly with questions. He's pretty focused on this, lol.
Sudden Swiss interest ?The inactivity from uguu and karthik is just something I find bad, but not too odd.
Same would apply for Bardull and Gova. Not really gonna look into zen and his actions anymore.
I could go for Swiss.
I could go for Ryu or Soup.
Pointless post.Explain.
Explain.
Another instance were Vinyl refuses to commit to Ryu, calling him null with scum lean, I don't recall Vinyl ever voting Ryu on this suspicion.Quote it for me so It doesn't have to be a drag to find it again then.
Both Ryu and you are yet to be determined, so scum lean, btw. That's my current read.
...On both? Elaborate further.Vinyl never bothered to do this.I'm gonna question both you and RR.
That explanation on karth sounds like you would rather start voting him tomorrow than now.
Possible lazy Vinyl but he had followed up with Soup at that point IIRC.
Another instance of not following up (that i can find right this minute or recall ) on the Ryu read.
Vinyl's deal on RR.This is something I don't really like much. So you're just gonna flat out vote bardull and uguu for inactivity? I understand that they're not being much active, but I think pressuring them like soup would've done on bar sounds much better.
You're voting Two people you're not even completely sure what ther roles are when flipped. One of them could be scum and we could be going all "cool, we got one scum down", but I feel that's not very occasional when it happens.
Pushes RR on voting for inactivity lynches when he himself was making a fuss about inactives and his reads / how they were effecting his scum hunting.
Italicised:
Makes it seem like Vinyl / RR have knowledge of Uguu's / Bard's pre-flip(not flavour but alignment wise.)
I know its a word choice thing, but this is probably the biggest slip , when you take apart his word choice :
Suggest he knows what Vinyl's / someone else's role is.You're voting Two people you're not even completely sure what ther roles are
Definite suggestion Vinyl has knowledge of who / how he's voting pushing / and their alignment.
Above quote is also silly because that's what town play is based on, only scum knows alignments (i.e they know everyone but them / their partners are enemies)
Weak point overall.This is something I don't really like much. So you're just gonna flat out vote bardull and uguu for inactivity? I understand that they're not being much active, but I think pressuring them like soup would've done on bar sounds much better.
Voting inactives purely for being inactive = completely un-indicative
Buddies Soup to make a point about what he dislikes about your methods, but never to that point (or at all IIRC) puts his vote on you despite calling you more guilty earlier and having some follow up on that with Soup.
Which gets odder when he buddies(IIRC It was Zen's vote on Soup ) Zen's vote on Soup by voting Soup.
Guess my main point on that is it looks like Vinyl wanted to make it look like he disliked your play / strategies but when it came to actually placing his vote on you and following up it , he failed to, reason = he's your buddy and was leaving himself open if a wagon gets going on you, and being your buddy he is going to be reluctant to vote you. (Again i cannot recall Vinyl ever putting a vote on you at a point , despite your apparent scumminess).
It also read as odd because Vinyl was content to sit on you / Soup / >mfw and not do much beyond that (not indicative of alignment necessarily , could just be lazy Vinyl) but when you read it in the context / with the idea of RR as a scum bud you can see why Vinyl would be happy to sit on that read and use it if a RR wagon arose to gain some town cred.
That about sums it up at this point.
What makes you say this? You quote Vinyl. showing you think he knew their alignment but then what makes you say this about me?Makes it seem like Vinyl / RR have knowledge of Uguu's / Bard's pre-flip(not flavour but alignment wise.)
This will happen hopefully but if it doesn't, please do not replace us. Me and Ryker are seriousuly trying but we both just keep getting buttdevastated by other things.Glyph said:If TLM doesn't have content by tomorrow night their slot will be replaced
Quotes?ANYWAY, ENOUGH FLAVOR TALK. SOMEONElNEEDS TO DIE TODAY.
SOUP WAS ACTUALLY MY LYNCH CHOICE, BUT THEN HE DIED. I THOUGHT HE WAS THE MOST LIKELY TO BE SCUM WITH VINYL BECAUSE HE WAS AVOIDING THE VINYL LYNCH AND FOCUSING ON JD, BUT THEN HE FLIPPED INDY. ODD. ANYWAY, I MOSTLY WANT TO LYNCH JD STILL FOR HIS GROSS BLACK AND WHITE RATIONALE WITH THE RAKE SLOT. ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHO I'M GUNNING FOR ATM. ALSO THAT MAKES SOUP'S READ QUASI LEGITIMATE ON JD SINCE SOUP WAS INDY. SO I'M INCLINED TO FEEL SUPPORTED IN MY ASSERTION OF JDSCUM.
VOTE: JDIETZ
badWe lynch leading man if Orbo doesn't have something that is incriminating.
Bolded is roflWe are inactive, what else is there to say? Me and Ryker are going to sit down one night and pull through reading this entire game and getting our thoughts out. We are pulling Glyph a solid and sticking in this game. Till then I really have nothing else to say since the scum-reads I have from skim-reading are dead (Vinyl/Soup, paired the two but both were just independent scum). I have no clue on Ryker's thoughts.
What am I supposed to say lol?
If you doubt I'll give content, I really think myself and Ryker have enough to say that when we will give content, it is going to be coming through.
Where did this come from >mfw ?
What revelations do you have now ?
Indy Soup changes your reads Y/N ?
Would you rather go Gova or TLM if we did an inactive lynch ?
Full Reads List.
That should be it for now
From there, amongst a few others. Why ask this about Orb now? I'd called him town prior.Never hurts to be on good terms with Swiss.
Thanks.
You tire me.Back this up ?
What made RR and Orbo town at this point ?
Those reads changed at all ?
Top 2 scum picks now that the 2 people you wanted dead have died / been lynched ?
Except vinyl did eat MS lol.We also know Vinyl didn't perform the first NK due to the fact that Mad Scummy wasn't eaten , so you have to assume the mafia team has some sort or investigative blocker (ninja / godfather ) to not send Vinyl out.
Explained well enough?@Orbo : You explain your stuff further and I'll out happily.
Your being very confusing right now lol
I suppose a ryker role is possible.@Anyone : Ego Siphon / Anti Ryker = Ryker role this game ?
@ Orbo : Who did you target with what results ?