Up Tilt: Do you ever use it? Should you?

[Speed Boost]

Sup Guys and Gals,

I've been giving some thought to UTilt lately and what if any situations it might be optimal. I noticed that I rarely use it, but it does seem to have some uses out of shield. It comes out faster than UpSmash and can be used as a safer(?) anti-air against characters like Kirby and Jiggs that approach from awkward angles. I still rarely use it, but was curious if anyone had any input on the Pits only swordless normal.

UTilt comes out one frame before USmash at frame 6 and finishes two frame before at 16. So, only slightly faster and less punishable, but without the amazing disjoint.
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[beany]

I dont ever like to think any move is useless on any character. I agree that USmash is generally the better option but I throw out UTilts every now and then. It has somewhat of a lingering hitbox, so I use it to catch rolls or spotdodges. It also actually hits in him, if not also slightly behind him, so it's decent with stuffing SH aerial approaches. On top of that, it actually hits people who are next to you. Nothing makes me more mad than not connecting the USmash because my opponent is standing in my armpit (pun definitely intended). With Utilt, you can actually hit them. Is it good/better than USmash? Probably not. Should you give it some thought? Depends on your playstyle. I dont like to stale my USmash, especially at kill percents, so I also use UTilt then. I would try it out, and if you find that you dont like it or you see yourself using USmash more, dont worry about trying to use it

 

[ixos]

I use it on occasion. Like beany said, it catches them behind you, which up smash doesn't. I sometimes use it to poke under platforms on Battlefield. In 2v2, I use it to catch opponents when they're landing or just in the air, just because it's a little bit quicker than up smash. It just all depends on the situation of when you should use it or not.

 

[Speed Boost]

Yeah, I've noticed that you can do a quick turn around UTilt by holding the control stick diagonally up in the opposite direction and pressing A. I personally find this to be easier than a turn around jab in a high stress situation and it can catch roll behinds because is lingers like beany already mentioned. It also pops them straight up which puts you in a juggle situation. It's niche, but I think I agree that it's good.

 

[LancerStaff]

Well main thing is that the hitboxes on this move are huge. Yeah, you see the pathetic wind effect on it? All hitboxes. I think both later hits connect on characters on platforms? Been out of it lately... If so it's a safer alternative to Usmash, and doesn't occasionally flub up on hit either.

It'd be interesting if it came out faster, though. Pit's lacking in really low startup moves being a swordsman and all, but if they shaved off two frames (6 to 4) then it'd be a good "get off me" option and have a unique role to fill like every other move of his. The real question is if Pit actually needs it...

If we keep complaining about it maybe it'll get buffed like Greninja's Ftilt did, heh.

 

[Sensane]

I've been using tilts more often. My problem is that sometimes I forget to use them, especially with Pit/Dark Pit.

 

[SilverWolfLaguz]

It's not too bad an anti-air move if you don't have the time to react with your own aerial, and of course as everyone says for pressuring/attacking from below a soft platform.

I personally use it as a "hey I'm not done air comboing you yet, get back in the air, I just needed to refresh my jumps" move though.

 

[Duke27]

No I never use up tilt. I've never really put much thought into it, so I can't say anything on it's potential. However, reading the posts above have made me reconsider that. I'll use it more from now on and see if it merits using IMO.

 

[ArcanaXIII]

I do use it sometimes. I've found it pretty useful for anti-airs and after shielding a badly spaced move.

 

[krazyzyko]

Below the side platz in bf it's pretty good. It has a longer animation than up smash so it can catch air dodges and side steps.

 

[Sensane]

Below the side platz in bf it's pretty good. It has a longer animation than up smash so it can catch air dodges and side steps.

That's really cool. I should try using u-tilt more on bf.

 

[InfinitySoul]

Below the side platz in bf it's pretty good. It has a longer animation than up smash so it can catch air dodges and side steps.

And on Lylat, Dreamland ? Is there a difference in the plateforms ?

 

[krazyzyko]

And on Lylat, Dreamland ? Is there a difference in the plateforms ?

On lylat it works on all 3 platz but the 3rd hit only goes through the middle one. Miiverse works. I don't have dreamland so I wouldn't know.

 

[Sensane]

On lylat it works on all 3 platz but the 3rd hit only goes through the middle one. Miiverse works. I don't have dreamland so I wouldn't know.

I'd theorize that the platforms on Dreamland could work since they're similar to bf, but I'll have to test it at some point.

 

[XakYm]

Yeah, I've noticed that you can do a quick turn around UTilt by holding the control stick diagonally up in the opposite direction and pressing A.

That's what I use Up-tilt for, whenever the opponent cross ups above my shield to get behind me.

 

[Sensane]

I've been using u-tilt a lot more recently. It has too much endlag to combo into anything, but it's a good anti air.