Truth to be told - Megaman Pros and Cons

[Sneak Sneaks]

A thread to discuss Megaman Pros and highlight them and Cons and work on them, everyone share which do you think are Megaman Pros and Cons
IMO they are:
Pros
-Heavy Weight: Makes it hard to kill him until very high percentages
-Decent Running Speed: Not so fast, yet not so slow
-Good Combo Game: Easy to pull off combos
-Good Grab Game: Easy to connect with a MB and strong grabs to use as kill moves
-Great Approaches: Double Jump Dair, MB to something, Using an upair at the back of your opponent, leafshield and ftilt to nair
-Kill confirms: Diagonal MB to Uptilt
-Versability: So many playstyles with the same character and so many different moves (even the customs are really different)
Cons
-Heavy Weight: Combo'ed for days
-Laggy Smashes: Some which could be in the laggiest smashes in the whole game
-Not many kill options: until late percentages or OoS

So which would be your MM pros and cons?

 

[Red Shirt KRT]

Agree with most of those .

Would say combo game is mediocre not great.

Would say approaches are decent at best/situational

Has great versatility.


Cons are good. I think his biggest con is that his kills are usually off of MB set ups, gimps, or reads.

 

[Reecepect]

I think his biggest con is his up close game, as he lacks a traditional jab which means your only option is to grab, or maybe SH Nair and even that is situational at best which means if shiek or falcon get up in your face you're probably getting hurt.

Other than that his options tend to be pretty great, but not the best

 

[uncaDon]

one of megaman's major problems as a character is basically that he's gimmicky - he's janky, he lacks things every other character takes for granted, like a jab or a reasonably straightforward, grounded horizontal kill move or "get off me now" move, so all his stuff generally comes from conditioning or metal blade setups

however in return he has a fantastic albeit initially awkward neutral, kill and gimp power, coupled with great survivability with proper DI

and of course, he has amazing tools to condition his opponent in the form of metal blade, c-bomb and leaf shield

 

[ChopperDave]

Pros:

- Has a moveset that is almost entirely disjointed, with some of the best disjointed attacks in the game
- Uair and pellets in particular are amazing
- Moveset is highly disruptive and good for forcing poor spacing and other bad situations
- Has a very strong neutral game, maybe one of the best
- Can perform any normal midair action after UpB
- Can generate what is arguably one of the better items in the game
- Good mobility and fall speed
- Very good offstage game
- One of the fastest skid stops in the game
- Very good range on his grab
- Has kill setups and hit confirms with Metal Blade and Shadow Blade
- Utilt comes out quickly and kills early
- Has a moderately useful kill throw
- OOS options (usmash, Tornado Hold, YOLO Rush Coil) are solid
- Can walljump (twice!)

Cons:

- Weight means he gets combo'd for days.
- Lacks a good "get off me" attack, and can have trouble escaping juggles
- Low damage output when he wins neutral--closest thing he has to a decent burst combo is uair->uair
- Mediocre combo setups makes it hard for him to convert advantage into damage and early KOs
- Lacks safe kill options until high %s
- All his aerials have laggy landings and are punishable on whiff
- Mediocre roll
- High commitment moves in general; even lemons, one of his safer moves, prevent him from being able to shield, dodge, dash, or double jump for a few precious frames
- Smashes are generally mediocre and read-dependent
- His middling walk and run speed make him campable by fast characters with projectiles, particularly Sheik

 

[Deleted member]

Pros:

- Has a Moveset that is almost entirely disjointed, with some of the best disjointed attacks in the game
- Uair and pellets in particular are amazing
- Moveset is highly disruptive and good for forcing poor spacing and other bad situations
- Has a very strong neutral game, maybe one of the best
- Can perform any normal midair action after UpB
- Can generate what is arguably one of the better items in the game
- Good mobility and fall speed
- Very good offstage game
- One of the fastest skid stops in the game
- Very good range on his grab
- Has kill setups and kill confirms with Metal Blade and Shadow Blade
- Utilt comes out quickly and kills early
- Has a moderately useful kill throw
- OOS options (usmash, Tornado Hold, YOLO Rush Coil) are solid
- Can walljump (twice!)

Cons:

- Weight means he gets combo'd for days.
- Lacks a good "get off me" attack, and can have trouble escaping juggles
- Low damage output when he wins neutral--closest thing he has to a decent burst combo is uair->uair
- Mediocre combo setups makes it hard for him to convert advantage into damage and early KOs
- Lacks safe kill options until high %s
- All his aerials have laggy landings and are punishable on whiff
- Mediocre roll
- High commitment moves in general; even lemons, one of his safer moves, prevent him from being able to shield, dodge, dash, or double jump for a few precious frames
- Smashes are generally mediocre and read-dependent
- His middling walk and run speed make him campable by fast characters with projectiles, particularly Sheik

Definitely this.

 

[CopShowGuy]

Pro: Great neutral game.
Con: Relies on conditioning and reads to get solid KOs.

 

[PlamZ]

One thing that is often forgotten is that he's very, VERY frustrating to play against. That really helps you if your opponent struggles with the mental game.

 

[Sneak Sneaks]

One thing that is often forgotten is that he's very, VERY frustrating to play against. That really helps you if your opponent struggles with the mental game.

It is even frustrating for us xD, seriously there have been times Im too lazy to play with Megaman because he needs so much focus

 

[Mega-Spider]

Pros:

- Has a moveset that is almost entirely disjointed, with some of the best disjointed attacks in the game
- Uair and pellets in particular are amazing
- Moveset is highly disruptive and good for forcing poor spacing and other bad situations
- Has a very strong neutral game, maybe one of the best
- Can perform any normal midair action after UpB
- Can generate what is arguably one of the better items in the game
- Good mobility and fall speed
- Very good offstage game
- One of the fastest skid stops in the game
- Very good range on his grab
- Has kill setups and hit confirms with Metal Blade and Shadow Blade
- Utilt comes out quickly and kills early
- Has a moderately useful kill throw
- OOS options (usmash, Tornado Hold, YOLO Rush Coil) are solid
- Can walljump (twice!)

Cons:

- Weight means he gets combo'd for days.
- Lacks a good "get off me" attack, and can have trouble escaping juggles
- Low damage output when he wins neutral--closest thing he has to a decent burst combo is uair->uair
- Mediocre combo setups makes it hard for him to convert advantage into damage and early KOs
- Lacks safe kill options until high %s
- All his aerials have laggy landings and are punishable on whiff
- Mediocre roll
- High commitment moves in general; even lemons, one of his safer moves, prevent him from being able to shield, dodge, dash, or double jump for a few precious frames
- Smashes are generally mediocre and read-dependent
- His middling walk and run speed make him campable by fast characters with projectiles, particularly Sheik

I agree with all of these. In terms of patch updates, I love that his Leaf Shield gets attention, but he needs more. Here's what I would change:
Buff lemons up to 3%
Give him better combo set ups (make it easier)
Get rid of aerial landing lag
Make his roll better
Allow lemons to shield, dodge, dash, and double jump for a few frames.
With the exception of D-Smash, remove lag on Smash attacks.
Make his run speed faster
Mega Man is a truly great character, but it's sad that he's heavily underused and the buffs he's gotten are good, but not enough. Let's hope the balance team sees that Mega Man needs to be buffed.

 

[Lufos]

It is even frustrating for us xD, seriously there have been times Im too lazy to play with Megaman because he needs so much focus

This. So much. Sometimes it even feels like it's morw frustrating for us lol

 

[Mega-Spider]

This. So much. Sometimes it even feels like it's morw frustrating for us lol

Maybe I'm just extremely committed to who I play, but I don't feel the same way. Yes, playing as Rock can be frustrating, especially if you're not used to how he works, but he can be incredibly satisfying to use and win with. When you get that kill, whether it's from a D-Smash, U-Tilt, S-Smash, whatever, and you hear that badass victory theme playing:

And you hear the announcer yelling: "And the winner is... MEGA MAN!!!"
The feeling is intense, and I love it.

 

[Red Shirt KRT]

Mega man's music is OP!

As for those buffs @ Mega-Spider I think getting all of those would also make mega OP!

He just needs the landing lag on F air reduced, and his down B should be the ability to switch his Side, Up and Neutral B specials XD

 

[Mega-Spider]

Mega man's music is OP!

As for those buffs @ Mega-Spider I think getting all of those would also make mega OP!

He just needs the landing lag on F air reduced, and his down B should be the ability to switch his Side, Up and Neutral B specials XD

I didn't think of that. If Leaf Shield could do that, then Mega Man would be even more awesome, which is something I hope happens in a future update. At least Mega isn't a character that gets complaints about being overpowered.

 

[Lufos]

Maybe I'm just extremely committed to who I play, but I don't feel the same way. Yes, playing as Rock can be frustrating, especially if you're not used to how he works, but he can be incredibly satisfying to use and win with. When you get that kill, whether it's from a D-Smash, U-Tilt, S-Smash, whatever, and you hear that badass victory theme playing:

And you hear the announcer yelling: "And the winner is... MEGA MAN!!!"
The feeling is intense, and I love it.

I didn't mean I don't enjoy him, and I've spent a lot of time playing him so its not that. I meant that you have to focus a lot to play him optimally and it can really hurt my brain sometimes i agree 100% that he's extremely satisfying to play and win with!!

 

[Mega-Spider]

I didn't mean I don't enjoy him, and I've spent a lot of time playing him so its not that. I meant that you have to focus a lot to play him optimally and it can really hurt my brain sometimes i agree 100% that he's extremely satisfying to play and win with!!

I always found focusing on a character so much to be a Smash Bros thing rather than a Mega Man thing.
I would make a jab about what makes my head hurt towards the Smash Bros community, but that's uncalled for and doesn't fit with this current place.

 

[Sneak Sneaks]

I always found focusing on a character so much to be a Smash Bros thing rather than a Mega Man thing.
I would make a jab about what makes my head hurt towards the Smash Bros community, but that's uncalled for and doesn't fit with this current place.

And we also have Mario.. who is like a break from focusing and putting too much effort to win

 

[HIMA14]

Don't forget about his landing lag...

 

[Meistermayo]

I would say mega just needs less lag and more kill setups/confirms.

If we cant get more setups or confirms, then if metal blade could just be made harder to pluck out of the air from dash attacks thatd be great

 

[Megamang]

Mega is fine in my opinion. Well, the matchups he loses are due to enemy overtuning, is all im saying. Like, hes a zoning blaster robot, why can needles totally outcamp him is the fault of ridiculous needles...

Maybe some fsmash endlag issues.


Buffing lemons would infuriate people.

 

[Sneak Sneaks]

Normal frame data for dsmash and fsmash, thst would make them relevant