Trouble with the Peach MU..

[notkain]

Playing against Peach is so ridiculously hard for me to play against for some reason..

Besides grab+upthrow+upair

What else could I do to counter a dash-attacky/nairy/downsmashy/floaty Peach?

Any good videos/threads for reference?

 

[krazyzyko]

Drill shine > WD > up smash to punish her down smash. If she DI's the drill away and downsmashes, try to soft shield.
Laser camp. Nairs can combo into each other on mid %'s.
If she dash attacks into your shield then JC > up smash.
Space bairs to keep her off stage.
Down tilt her up B if she sweetspots.
Dash dance close enough to make her whiff out an attack. Go in for a grab if she attempts to yank out a turnip.

You want to go to PS or YS.
She wants to go to FD or FoD.
DL & BF are pretty even eventhough l hate BF's edges and she lives forever in DL but you can camp her easily.

 

[Red Rice]

Watch Mango vs Armada from MLG. He plays the matchup incredibly well there at times.

Try not to approach with aerials at lower percent other than dair because she can CC downsmash or CC dtilt you which will lead to a hefty combo. Generally, if you see a peach dash dancing, she will 8/10 times be looking for a dash attack.

Most important about this match up is that you don't have to approach. You'll feel the match going very slowly and that you'll want to approach but if you play smart and laser, you'll win the MU. Learn to SHDL

 

[Oasis]

Resist the urge to charge in with reckless abandon. When playing against Armada, Mango sees the best success when he plays patiently, laser camping and smart dash dancing. If Mango grows antsy and plays carelessly, Armada will not hesitate to deliver one of his famous punishes. It's unlikely any normal Peach will punish as hard as Armada, but the same ideas apply.

 

[Unwavering_Canadian]

Hey all, any suggestions on beating a peach which constantly down smashes -> side step -> side step or down smash ? I usually jc grab but the timing is just so punishable if missed. What covers both options, the safer the fox option the better. I don't like getting blendered.

 

[Red Rice]

Bait out the dsmash/spot dodges and drill shine

 

[Unwavering_Canadian]

If you're hit by downsmash in your shield, do you have to DI it out before you can wavedash oos into upsmash?

 

[Red Rice]

it depends how far you're into the downsmash

 

[krazyzyko]

If you're hit by downsmash in your shield, do you have to DI it out before you can wavedash oos into upsmash?

You could soft shield so the attack will push you away. Also, if you'd like to exit the shield ASAP use the C-stick.

 

[Unwavering_Canadian]

Is drill up-tilt effective? I'm doing some tech practice and it seems effective for launching peach to get an aerial off or kill at high percents. Can drill up-tilt be punished on drill hit-confirm?

 

[Red Rice]

I know a long time ago, M2K used to drill > utilt Puffs so it might work on Peach but I'm guessing it's not guaranteed.
Drill > waveshine > turnaround utilt works.

 

[DarkLouis331]

Drill, laser camping, and a solid platform game are your friend. As much as us Foxes like to be aggro, you have to play the Peach matchup campy and patiently.

Try to time her float as well. Once her float is gone, she'll retreat and fair. Run in and get underneath her with an upsmash.

 

[<LyKos>]

This is just one of my philosophies as I develop as a spacie player (ALSO because I'm not terribly gifted at being consistent with my shield pressure yet), but favor grabs over shield pressure. Peach has some great OOS options to punish sloppy shield pressure, so view shields not as an opportunity to exert pressure, but as an opportunity to get a free up throw-->uair.