Trouble with side-b height/control

[infomon]

Hi all,

I have a lot of trouble controlling the IC's side-b in brawl. Achieving maximum height takes a LOT of mashing B; I just can't do it consistently. I had no idea they could even reach heights such as this:
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v6476055Ws3SEs4g

which apparently was done using a controller with turbo-button. I've tried remapping other buttons on the classic controller to act as Special, but that didn't help

Is it common to use side-b recovery to get better height than up-b? Is there any super special awesome secret way to get better at this? Thx!

 

[Miller]

Its pretty much physically impossible to get maximum height.

Side note : Are you going to Twilight of smash 5 in ottawa?

 

[infomon]

Its pretty much physically impossible to get maximum height.

wtf...... that's reeeeealllly dumb...... k....

I've been playing around with the side-b in training mode. Unless Training Mode has some really weird input-buffering issues when running in slow-motion (which is quite possible :/), I don't think the side-b mechanic is simply "how many times you mash the B button", as I'd thought. I think instead, it's based on timing.... reeeeally delicate timing. If you try it in slow-mo, you can see pressing the b button pushes them up a wee bit.. but sometimes more than others. It might be based on where they're positioned in the swing, or maybe based on their vertical momentum; so based on how long it's been since you last hit B.

Does anyone have any detailed info on how the side-b works? Maybe someone's already figured this out. I don't know how Action Replay for Wii works but it might be useful to decipher this....

Side note : Are you going to Twilight of smash 5 in ottawa?

Heh, yeah I'm thinking about it. I'm still pretty n00b but it'd be fun none-the-less. You coming down for it?

 

[Miller]

Action Replay Wii is not out yet, as far as I'm concerned.

And yes, I should be comming down to ToS5, if I see you there I can give you some pointers

 

[infomon]

Action Replay Wii is not out yet, as far as I'm concerned.

oh lol, okay. I guess noone knows the details on Squall works then? I'll try more experiments...

And yes, I should be comming down to ToS5, if I see you there I can give you some pointers

OK, awesome thx.

 

[IDK]

wtf...... that's reeeeealllly dumb...... k....

I've been playing around with the side-b in training mode. Unless Training Mode has some really weird input-buffering issues when running in slow-motion (which is quite possible :/), I don't think the side-b mechanic is simply "how many times you mash the B button", as I'd thought. I think instead, it's based on timing.... reeeeally delicate timing. If you try it in slow-mo, you can see pressing the b button pushes them up a wee bit.. but sometimes more than others. It might be based on where they're positioned in the swing, or maybe based on their vertical momentum; so based on how long it's been since you last hit B.

dude don't flip out and call people dumb like that when you don't even know. like YOU said, you're a noob. I was playing around with the side b, and pressed the b button inhumanly fast and went up. I did it with the middle of my thumb.

 

[infomon]

dude don't flip out and call people dumb like that when you don't even know. like YOU said, you're a noob. I was playing around with the side b, and pressed the b button inhumanly fast and went up. I did it with the middle of my thumb.

Eeks! I think you misunderstood my comment. I was not calling anyone dumb, certainly not Millar! I think it's dumb that Squall requires inhuman button-mashing ("physically impossible" perhaps) to achieve maximal height. Like, that puts a strange kind of limit on the IC's ability; it makes recovery unpredictable for the player.

Unless, there's some timing dynamic we haven't figured out yet, that gives us much better control over Squall (with a lot of crazy timing practice, no doubt). I hope this is the case.

 

[Miller]

He wasn't referring anyone to being "dumb". He was referring to the fact that it takes wayy to much button mashing to achieve max height

 

[IDK]

if this thread still matters, just saying sorry about that misunderstanding.

 

[infomon]

if this thread still matters, just saying sorry about that misunderstanding.

oh lol np