Trouble Getting Better with Olimar

[Deleted member]

I'm trying to play better as Olimar and it so far it isn't turning out to be easy. Mainly because the three people I play with are not bad, but at the same time, their playing styles seem bland. One playing as Kirby just does a smash attack or two and fly's away and waits for an opportunity to heal or attack. The other as Wario just does mainly just smash attacks. The last plays decent as Sonic, but most of the time up-B's out of every little thing coming has way. It's hard to practice against these people because of mainly their playing style. I thought I was insane with Olimar until i realized that I've been mainly playing against my friends and am not learning any good techniques. The short-and-sweet way of putting it, I need to become better with Olimar. Anyone got any advice or help, it'll be MUCH appreciated!

 

[Olimarman]

Find more people to play irl, or if all else fails try online. Try different strategies, combos, mindgames. Try new things and eventually you'll get better.

 

[OlimarFan]

I'm trying to play better as Olimar and it so far it isn't turning out to be easy. Mainly because the three people I play with are not bad, but at the same time, their playing styles seem bland. One playing as Kirby just does a smash attack or two and fly's away and waits for an opportunity to heal or attack. The other as Wario just does mainly just smash attacks. The last plays decent as Sonic, but most of the time up-B's out of every little thing coming has way. It's hard to practice against these people because of mainly their playing style. I thought I was insane with Olimar until i realized that I've been mainly playing against my friends and am not learning any good techniques. The short-and-sweet way of putting it, I need to become better with Olimar. Anyone got any advice or help, it'll be MUCH appreciated!

Don't feel too bad: Olimar has a very steep learning curve. But don't let that put you off! The results are rewarding!

I strongly suggest you read Echo's Guide and TrueRedemption's Advanced Olimar Discussion. They are very in-depth and cover a broad spectrum of Olimar's match-ups and tactics.

 

[Barge]

I got better when I first went online, and I'm still improving.

 

[Awex]

Find new people to play. Playing the same people over and over, especially players below your skill level won't help you improve. If you can't find players offline, wifi is all you've got, but it should be enough for improving.

Watch videos of top Olimar players as well. Here are some videos of Mr X, a great example.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=getyourtournament&search_query=mr+x&search=Search

Watch his playstyle carefully, it should give you some ideas.

Hope that helps. =)

 

[Kyas]

Work on how you think when you fight.

I only get any technical practice at all during tournaments, not owning a Wii myself. I've gotten better almost every time by just conditioning my mind to mindgame better. Olimar is relatively easy to master technically, leaving you with metagame. Work on your metagame, my friend. Figure out what you're going to do at what percents and the best moves for a given pikmin/situation. Alex has suggested an excellent way to do this above.

Oh... and try another text color <_<

 

[geekd]

if you wanna get really good your gunna have to master olimars ATs and incorporate them into your playstyle. try and focus on things like wistle armor, pivot grabs, and using his ub offensively

 

[RichBrown]

An idea that recently occured to me (which i have yet to try) is try practicing as nolimar (no pikmin). this will force you to incorporate tilts and approaching with Nair. Obviously it will put you at a major disadvantage when you do this, but like I said it will force you to use those moves and eventually get them into your consciousness.

 

[TechnoMonster]

Ways to get better:

Improve your combos and do more damage when you get a grab or setup hit in.
Improve your edgeguarding.
Improve your recovery.
Improve your timing.
See if you can replace common times to use a spot- or roll-dodge with a more productive attack.
Learn your KO percents for your favorite KOs.

You can practice this against your friends. For metagame practice, go to tournaments.

 

[Deleted member]

Well i do use whistle armor and maybe a pivot grab when the time is right, but that's the thing, my timing in some cases really does suck. A really good example is that i can rarely do a Dair spike cause usually i end up missing and dieing.

P.S. TY for the advice so far...

P.S.S. what can i use to record myself playing?

 

[Plum]

Switch to Blackimar because it adds twice as much distance to your jumps! >>
If you can't find other people to play with, search the forums for some people close by that you can hook up over wi-fi with, better connection = better practice obviously.
Don't overload yourself with AT's and strategies. One step at a time is the only way to really incorporate better things into your style.

 

[Blackimar]

Switch to Blackimar because it adds twice as much distance to your jumps! >>
If you can't find other people to play with, search the forums for some people close by that you can hook up over wi-fi with, better connection = better practice obviously.
Don't overload yourself with AT's and strategies. One step at a time is the only way to really incorporate better things into your style.

Nice Logic Im Black lol

 

[Kyas]

Well i do use whistle armor and maybe a pivot grab when the time is right, but that's the thing, my timing in some cases really does suck. A really good example is that i can rarely do a Dair spike cause usually i end up missing and dieing.

P.S. TY for the advice so far...

P.S.S. what can i use to record myself playing?

Do you own a wii?
If you do, practice mode. Just launch different characters off of the stage and try to spike them. You'll get better at it.

 

[RichBrown]

I think negrolimar has a better ring to it XD

anyways, when you are playing friendlies, TRY THINGS. Be willing to die in order to try techniques. I lost so many lives in friendlies trying to time the WAC, but I got it down pretty well now. Same thing with spikes: At first I lost a lot of lives, but eventually I learned what worked and what didn't, and I've gotten more and more comfortable being away from the edge (which isn't easy to do as olimar, being comfy away from the edge that is).

So when playing friendlies, think of them more like events: set a goal for yourself like "I gotta land one-two spikes" or "I gotta land 3 WACs" or something along those lines. Eventually you'll get really comfortable with doing certain things and it will make you supa dangerous.

 

[Kabuto Mushi]

Switch to Blackimar because it adds twice as much distance to your jumps! >>

I lol'd. =\

 

[Awex]

*****mar.

10racists

 

[Excellence]

Isn't the Olimar community so loving and willing to help? Brings tears to my eyes ;]

What you should really do is crank up the level of difficulty. Play high level players who use the following: Toon Link; to practice your ranged game, Game&Watch; to practice your timing and punish game, Snake; to practice tactics, Marth; to practice recovering against a gimp pro, and another Olimar; to test your metagame against another's and see which things work best, what doesn't work, and what you can do better.

Try recording your matches and reviewing them. See if you're offensive or defensive, not tactical everyone thinks they're tactical when they're really not. If you're offensive, trying playing defensive when you're at lower percentages, then get really agressive when you get to higher percentages and turn up the pressure on your opponent to get KOs. Watch all the neat little mistakes they make that cause them doooooom.

If all else fails, go to a Tournament, get school and practice, practice, practice against what beat you. If you don't know or can't figure it out, ask your opponent and see what they say.