Tournaments + Wireless Problems = ???

[TheBuzzSaw]

The first responce shall be: If you're not syncing at home, boo hoo. Obviously the wireless state is CLEARLY unstable, or more potentially, and while it may be "restricting" and seem "shallow" that doesn't mean it's unfair. It means LIFE'S unfair. Get over it. You obviously aren't a serious smasher if you're using the wii remote to play because i can swear to **** that a gamecube controller user will kick the shiza out of any wii remote user. You wanna pay money and intentionally suck, your issue, not mine.

First off, it is not my call whether serious smashers will use the Gamecube controller. I have already heard from numerous players that plan on using the Classic Controller, so sync issues will be present. Secondly, you clearly are misunderstanding the issue. If the controller fails to perform in tournament, that is the owner's problem. However, if there are sync issues, that is definitely a tournament issue. I am not about to start disqualifying players with sync issues.

The second responce shall be: I'm almost positive that it'll be impossible to play the game with the wii remote. There's still another controller that makes sence to me, and that's the old snes controller. The wii remote and it's nunchuck counterpart SHOULD NOT be used in serious play and I can gurantee you'll never see serious smashers, that WOULD pay money, going that route.

Though I agree that the Gamecube controller will be the best choice, you are making a rather uneducated guess here. You are making assumptions about a game you have never played and about players you have never met. There will be players who prefer a control scheme aside from the Gamecube controller.

There's no issues here other then you want to be taking the lazier route with wireless, but not accepting it's obvious technical flaws. And with the remote, build me a bridge and cry me a river; nobody cares if it's shallow. You probably WILL be able to play the game with the remote, but don't go crying to nintendo because a gamecube user basically ***** you at a money paying tournament and your accessability to moves and maneuvers were seriously hampered or impossible.

How is the wireless route "lazy"? As I mentioned before, what about people who own no Gamecube controllers? They cannot enter tournaments? I want the smash community to grow, not carry over the exact same set of players from the world of Melee.

As for the second part of your comment, I never brought that issue up, but frankly, your attitude toward the situation is horrendous. So, are we to just ban players who lack skill? Also, a large number of players plan on using the Classic Controller, which could easily rival the Gamecube controller.

 

[Gannondorf the fifth]

First off, it is not my call whether serious smashers will use the Gamecube controller. I have already heard from numerous players that plan on using the Classic Controller, so sync issues will be present. Secondly, you clearly are misunderstanding the issue. If the controller fails to perform in tournament, that is the owner's problem. However, if there are sync issues, that is definitely a tournament issue. I am not about to start disqualifying players with sync issues.

Though I agree that the Gamecube controller will be the best choice, you are making a rather uneducated guess here. You are making assumptions about a game you have never played and about players you have never met. There will be players who prefer a control scheme aside from the Gamecube controller.

Responce: Careful, you aren't practicing what you preach. I'm not making assumtions if I KNOW how melee works and that it's more probable to assume that brawl won't be INCREDIBLY different. I don't NEED to meet certain players or play brawl right now to make definately credible assertions that I know will be true.

How is the wireless route "lazy"? As I mentioned before, what about people who own no Gamecube controllers? They cannot enter tournaments? I want the smash community to grow, not carry over the exact same set of players from the world of Melee.

Responce: I never said wireless players CAN'T enter a tournament. Your hope for the melee community and experts to be left behind is absurd. While I can't assume you suck at melee, it's hard to imagine why you'd want the best left behind. You didn't say "best" because the best will beat down the wimpy and the wimpy won't play anymore. Such is the rule of "survival of the fittest" at least in this case with brawl.

As for the second part of your comment, I never brought that issue up, but frankly, your attitude toward the situation is horrendous. So, are we to just ban players who lack skill? Also, a large number of players plan on using the Classic Controller, which could easily rival the Gamecube controller.

Responce: Ban players that lack skill? Why? That's easy money. I actually intend to use the classic controller. I grew up with the best system ever...the snes...and I know i'll grow into it's design more thoroughly then the cube controller...maybe. I realize it requires the wii remote to sync but it shouldn't be a problem unless a bunch of dumb focks are letting the sun hit the controllers and the t.v. directly or too many young kids aiming their remotes at the same t.v. to throw me off. My cube is my back-up, or least it's intended that way.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Responce: Ban players that lack skill? Why? That's easy money. I actually intend to use the classic controller. I grew up with the best system ever...the snes...and I know i'll grow into it's design more thoroughly then the cube controller...maybe. I realize it requires the wii remote to sync but it shouldn't be a problem unless a bunch of dumb focks are letting the sun hit the controllers and the t.v. directly or too many young kids aiming their remotes at the same t.v. to throw me off. My cube is my back-up, or least it's intended that way.

Do you know what 'sync' means??

 

[Doggalina]

Have every person who brings a Wii bring two Wiimotes already synched with it. Then the classic controller/nunchuck can be plugged in.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Have every person who brings a Wii bring two Wiimotes already synched with it. Then the classic controller/nunchuck can be plugged in.

That's the best idea I have heard so far. What about 2v2?

 

[Red Exodus]

People aren't going to want to use other people's controllers, I know some people that can't play with controllers other than their's and if they do you can guarantee there will be controller johns.

They could play the game but their performance would be lower, it would be like entering a car race with some random guy's car.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

I was forced to use a Mad Catz Gamecube controller yesterday for Melee. I think my effectiveness dropped to about 60%. >_<

 

[Gannondorf the fifth]

Do you know what 'sync' means??

Sync means to make a direct connection from one device to another. Seeing how you questioned me upon it, perhaps you didn't understand what I was talking about with the sun and all that jazz.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Sync means to make a direct connection from one device to another. Seeing how you questioned me upon it, perhaps you didn't understand what I was talking about with the sun and all that jazz.

With the Wii, to sync means to establish the initial connection (similar to as if you were plugging in your Gamecube controller). Once the controller is sync'd, everything is fine. All the stuff you were talking about with the sun and whatnot has nothing to do with syncing the controllers. The sun interferes with the infrared sensor (probably not even used in Brawl except for menus). The controllers use Bluetooth, so the sun or sensor bar's position has no bearing on getting a controller to sync. I am referring to the nightmare of repeatedly guest syncing controllers to new Wiis every match.

 

[Link Sharingan]

make a rule that only wired GC controler and Classic controler are only permited at tournoment the other are not

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

make a rule that only wired GC controler and Classic controler are only permited at tournoment the other are not

That's probably what I am going to do. Every player has three choices:

(1) plug in a Gamecube controller
(2) plug in a Classic Controller to an already sync'd remote
(3) play with an already sync'd remote/nunchuk without complaining

 

[Burninator]

make a rule that only wired GC controler and Classic controler are only permited at tournoment the other are not

You're making early assumptions too, aren't you? The Wiimote/Nunchuk are comfortable controllers to hold, and could easily take a top spot on the controllers list. Even the Wiimote alone is a good option for those that use tilt attacks often, since it's hard to accidentally Smash when you have to press two buttons in order to do so.

Also, even if people did listen to your suggestion, they'd have to sync their controllers. It's just an extension of the Wii remote.

EDIT: However, using an already-synced controller is a good option to cut down on prep time for Classic Controller users. Hadn't thought of that.