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makes me think naughty *banned*What about it?
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makes me think naughty *banned*What about it?
makes me think naughty *banned*
makes me think naughty *banned*
What if the tactian could place generic warriors on stage as part of their standard moveset....they'd stay rooted in one spot and act like turrets that attack enemies who come too near.Over time I've started to warm up to the idea of a playable tactician but I feel some mechanic is needed to emphasize his/her tactical side. One idea I had was having the tactician paired up with another FE:A character and the more damage they deal the stronger they become. Or simply Make the Final Smash summoning a bunch of Awakening characters to rush the stage.
Le Stance
Robin is unique as a stance change character, either focusing on zoning a character out and keeping them away, or an in your face rushdown character. Throws are the same.
Sword
A )A jolt of Lightning is generated in front of Robin as he/She raises the Levin Sword, hitting like Kirby's standard combo. 5% on sword hit, 2% on lightning Spark hits.
A>) Robin tilts the Levin Sword foward, dealing slight damage and forces opponents into the air. 8%
A^) Robin Generates a Spark above him with the sword. This Spikes opponents to the ground, and requires extreme teching skill due to speed. Can force opponents into the air. 7 %
A\/)Robin swings the levin sword on the ground, knocking enemies foward into the air. This allows Robin decent combos and is her strongest tilt. 10%
Dashing A)Robin Halts to a skid as sword is in front of him/her, knocks upward, 9%
Neutral Aerial) Robin swings the levin sword around him/her self, creating a comboing shockwave that sends players in the direction she is traveling. Has suprising shield draining prowers. 6% on sword swing, 4% on shockwave
Forward Aerial) Robin does a quick swing of the levin sword, knocking opponents foward. This is his/her killing aerial, kills Mario around 105%, 11%
Back Aerial) Robin Sends knock opponents in an upward diagonal of the direction they were hit with a diagonal slash, great combo move, 9%
Down Aerial) Robin Stabs below, generating a spark, Powerful meteor smash if sweetspotted at spike, otherwise hit backward. 8% sourspotter, 10% sweetspotted
Up Aerial) Robin Does a quick swipe, decent kill potential at 120%+, good for combos , 9 %
Foward Smash: Levin Sword) Robin swings the sword that hits twice, once in a pre-shockwave, and again with the sword swing. Deals 15 % uncharged (5% Shock, 10% swing), 22 charged (8 shock, 14 swing)
Up Smash: ShockStick) Robin draws an electrical lance and gives it a quick swing. While fast and having good reach, it has low kill potentail and is used for combos. 13% uncharged, 19% charged
Down Smash: Bolt Axe) Robin draws the bolt axe and does a circular swing. The strongest of Robin's smashes. 17 % uncharged, 24% charged
Standard B: Ignis) An aura like flurry surrounds Robin as he does a quick rushing slice, kills at 100%, pierces shields, can be directionally changed into an upward rise at 30 degrees for aerial combos, 12 %
Side B: Lethality) A quick counter of Robin's for physical attacks. Robin gains a dark aura and rushes foward. Can be used for brief invincibility frames upon rush, does not counter projectiles. Counter is 1.2x damage.
Up B: Aggressor) A zantezuken of sorts, Robin rushes in the direction the player selects, and requires good timing. Once mastered allows to dash across final destination. Can be cancelled into aerial attacks, 9 %
Down B: Stance Change) Robin Draws a tome, and the rushdown becomes the zoner.
Will post rest after lunch
I think a summon character does not show off Robin as it does FE Awakening. If it is done right, I'd... adapt. However, I am just don't like the idea myself.I like your interpretation of her skills.
I certainly don't object to a stance-based Robin if it is done as well as you have. There are many ways to take on the character because she is so versatile.
My response to those requesting Robin as a summoner:
Now I ONE-HUNDRED-PERCENT love and admire your enthusiasm. This post is not at all to be taken as an insult, though I need to be blunt.
I am always reluctant of having Robin being a summoner of any sort. It's not like the other assets characters bring into the fight. Something like Lumas or Waddledees are very basic art assets, and highly optimized for the 3d environment. They have few joints, scarcely any particles and don't really respond to the environment. Basically, you can have many of them on the screen at once without any real technical strain.
Unless we want faceless, helmeted soldiers with no details and minimal joints, bringing in full-bodied fighters runs the risk of technical load. Keep in mind that this has to run on the 3DS. To bring in actual characters who we know and love are out of the question. In Fire Emblem Awakening, the 3DS lags quite a bit in areas with environmental effects (snow, Grima's dark clouds, etc.), only running 2-3 characters on screen that don't even need to detect collision or anything else that could cause strain. The moment a character critical cut-in occurs, the framerate tanks IMMENSELY. The idea of having four Robins summon even just one fighter at a time, especially on stages like Reset Bomb Forest or the Nintendo Dogs stage, is absolutely out of the question. A Final Smash would outright drop it to a framerate not suitable for gameplay, even if you had immensely blurred and distorted soldiers without facial features.
If that is not enough, it just is not appealing as a developer in the economical sense. That is to say, if you want them to be actual characters being called in, that means they need to design them all in HD. And don't say they can just port them from the 3DS: they WILL get called out on it, and it would be an absolute eyesore to the work they have done thus far. Implementing could result in immensely increased development time for one character who could already be immensely unique with far less effort. Robin can be so much without it.
And honestly, the only thing that I can conceive actually adding to the experience is summoning Knights/Soldiers to block the enemy's approach, since it could make for a new fun kind of zoning character.
Just my two gold.
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Can we get Trish Stratus in SSB4? I mean I'd prefer over WiiFit trainer any day.bonus points for being a fan of Daniel Bryan! Daniel Bryan for SSB4
Made a new Robin Icon:
I think Link and Snake are two characters I would consider highly tactical. Villager looks slated to be as well.His whole playstyle should involve strategy, like maybe planning attacks with Tomes like Mire, which allows Robin to hit anyone with the long ranged magic attack. Then I think he would be at the very least interesting.
I'm sure Sakurai is reading this and will give us a Trish Stratus palette.Can we get Trish Stratus in SSB4? I mean I'd prefer over WiiFit trainer any day.
my bet is that they use the voice 1's for Smash. First usually means default for avatar characters, so much like his/her hair, I think they will go default.The topic of voice acting leaves one to beg the question: Who would voice Robin?
Other characters are rather obvious choices, since its rather binary based on time or incarnation. Robin has 6 voices (though sometimes one VA does two Robins). So who should s/he get?
It seems Michelle Ruff is the best option for a female Robin. She did both voice 1 & 3, so we can comfortably know whatever she does will match the fighter. Her resume is all over the place, but to me I know her as the strong and suitable voice of Shanoa from Castlevania.
As far as the male Robin is concerned, David Vincent (voice 1) is probably the best bet. He doesn't have the widest resume, but what he has done he has done well. He has a lot of returning clients, proving his work is consistent. Plus most of his game-related voice acting is for fighters (you might recognize him as Marshall Law), so he knows how to sound genuine.
I gave him a 75% in chance and 50% in want.Robin's day in the Rate Their Chances thread...
GENIUS/10.All jokes aside, how would we want Robin to be introduced?
I am a sappy and emotional tool, and I would love if they made a nod to Awakening in some form or another.
*video starts in darkness*
Pit: Marth... We have to do SOMETHING.
Marth: What do you propose we do?
Pit: I... I don't know!
*eyes open*
Marth: Ah, I see you are awake now.
Pit: Hey there.
Marth: There are better places to take a nap than on the ground, you know.
Give me your hand.
*extends hand and pulls up Robin*
Now grab your tome and fight.
*perspective turns around to show the rest of the cast, ready to battle the newcomer*
Of course if others are revealed like Ike before the trailer, they could replace either of the characters. I just chose characters who could speak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfslY_AvhLwRobin appears to have done well in the RMT. Good. Very Good indeed.
Thanks for the support!I am quite surprised that I didn't find this thread until recently...Anyway, I would like to say that I am in full support of Robin tipping the scales! She is one of the two characters that I would honestly love to see in thanks to her capability of bringing something new to the table as far as Fire Emblem representatives go. I am not saying she is the only one who CAN do so, but the only one with the relevance and importance to her game in my opinion.
From what I gather from the Smash Bros community:Robin appears to have done well in the RMT. Good. Very Good indeed.
If it helps you any, I want her in because I personally like her. Being a tome-wielder is just the icing on the cake for me. ^^From what I gather from the Smash Bros community:
As more people are seeing Lucina as an unlikely standalone addition and as the general public has begun to understand the implications of adding Chrom (IE far less likely we would have Ike), combined with the fact getting an Awakening character is highly expected, I guess people just kind of defaulted to Robin. :/
At the very least, if people do not appreciate the character as I do for who she is, at least they respect the idea of having a tome-wielder. Some people outright expect Robin but don't even like her.
Yeah. I can see that.If it helps you any, I want her in because I personally like her. Being a tome-wielder is just the icing on the cake for me. ^^
I also think she is the most likely candidate for an Awakening tied with Chrom for obvious reasons. Her being a Tactician is akin to the Pokemon Trainer, being the player's character and I very much see this as a trend in future games. Not to mention she is the story of the game, whether people like it or not.Yeah. I can see that.
Even if this was the first Smash Bros and Awakening was not relatively hot off the press, I could still make a strong case for Robin to join Marth. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, of course, though I just genuinely like everything about the character, sans a few of the supports.
I think they should go for the male option cause we already have two female magic users 3 If palutena is addedI also think she is the most likely candidate for an Awakening tied with Chrom for obvious reasons. Her being a Tactician is akin to the Pokemon Trainer, being the player's character and I very much see this as a trend in future games. Not to mention she is the story of the game, whether people like it or not.
They could also make male and female Robins alternate costumes, or just cover up Robin's face with a hood like the Awakening cutscenes do.I think they should go for the male option cause we already have two female magic users 3 If palutena is added
I don't see why they'd go the hood route when they can simply give him/her two different appearances. WiiFit Trainer got it, no reason Robin shouldn't.They could also make male and female Robins alternate costumes, or just cover up Robin's face with a hood like the Awakening cutscenes do.
True. The only problem is the voice actor. I don't think Robin could be mute.They could also make male and female Robins alternate costumes, or just cover up Robin's face with a hood like the Awakening cutscenes do.
This is the biggest budget Nintendo series ever we're talking about.True. The only problem is the voice actor. I don't think Robin could be mute.
I disagree.I think they should go for the male option cause we already have two female magic users 3 If palutena is added
Yeah. Also, I kind of default everything to female. I would prefer to have a female Robin if we could only have one (especially with the roster makeup), though I won't cry myself to sleep if we get default male for some reason.I was expecting seeing both genders in the game, but I refer to the Tactician as a female because that's what I played as. Not to mention when I played as a male, I didn't like Chrom's support conversation with him as much as I did with the female. I would prefer if we didn't get a hooded figure as it would lose some appeal with me. Either way, though, I hope s/he is playable.