Tier Issues part 1: Fox

[Rapthehedgehog]

SSBM tier list
Top tier
Fox
Falco

High tier
Sheik
Marth
Peach

Middle tier
Captain Falcon
Ice Climbers
Samus
Dr. Mario
Jigglypuff
Mario
Ganondorf

Low tier
Link
Luigi
Donkey Kong
Roy
Young Link
Pikachu

Bottom tier
Yoshi
Zelda
Mr. Game and Watch
Ness
Bowser
Kirby
Pichu
Mewtwo
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Note how fox has been near the top in both games. Even though he was nerfed i think he wil be high mid. Post what you think

 

[FaceGuy]

That opinion isn't really based on much, no-one has had enough time with the game to judge. I see this thread getting locked soon.

 

[Tobi-]

Posting tiers already?

so you want us to blindly choose how we think fox will fit into the list based on a 2-minute item frenzy demo and considering we don't even know all the characters yet?

Err..No thanks.

 

[Ruggeth]

All of the characters haven't been revealed yet.

I for one and personally pushing towards Diddy being a mid-high tier character. But then again, the game isn't even out yet.

 

[Rapthehedgehog]

Pro's have played

they said they have a vague idea

 

[Ruggeth]

Vague isn't assuring. Also, who said he'd be the top char? From what I've seen/heard, Metaknight seems like he's already proven "high tier".

Then again.. The games not out yet.

 

[Darkfur]

Unfortunately, as it was a DEMO and a DEMO with only a FRACTION of the characters it is IMPOSSIBLE to determine a Tier list as of now.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

1. Character Discussion.
2. We can't decide the tier list yet. A tier list probably wont come out until 6 months after the game is released. MINIMUM.

 

[Tobi-]

they said they have a vague idea

a vague idea?

and if a unlockable character takes all 3 spots on the tier list? yea, it skews the entire list up, making it completely inaccurate.

judging right now is just too early, even for speculation.

 

[GreenKirby]

they said they have a vague idea

Well U have a vague idea when the end of the world will happen. Hur hur!

Why the hell are people thinking Brawl will turn out one way because some idiot based that on his MELEE EXPERIENCE?!

 

[Tobi-]

Well U have a vague idea when the end of the world will happen. Hur hur!

Why the hell are people thinking Brawl will turn out one way because some idiot based that on his MELEE EXPERIENCE?!

They are "pro" from melee, so whatever they say is fact.

\sarcasm

 

[Weed]

What does posting the SSBM tier list have anything to do with brawl?

 

[Ruggeth]

No items
No posts
No topics

Final destination.

 

[Tobi-]

What does posting the SSBM tier list have anything to do with brawl?

to show that a nerfed fox is still somehow high mid tier in a incomplete brawl demo.


which still makes no sense.

 

[yogho]

pffff....what's up with the "pros" and their tiers and tournament crap.

Seriously ITS JUST A GAME! I own a pro fox user with luigi. Tiers mean nothing to me.

And you did not even played the game yet! Why are so many people so into this tier stuff? It's like people who talk about this subject are instantly getting a orgasm when they see stuff they like.

And when sheik is gone for example they go: NOOOOO i hate this game! I want sheik now! And fox better not be nerfed and I WILL KICK SAKURAI'S *** IF WAVEDASH IS GONE!

But this is what they say when u look through those words: "I can't play without glitches and easy to control characters".

I puke on you kind of people!

 

[Ruggeth]

Same. I don't even wavedash.

As for the people who boycott brawl for the changes in it, well, while you're crying your eyes out we'll all be playing brawl online.

 

[yogho]

*Makes a joy dance around the coffee table*

 

[Ruggeth]

TOURNEY RULES:

No items
No having fun
No stages where fox loses
No not fox

FINAL DESTINATION.

 

[Weed]

to show that a nerfed fox is still somehow high mid tier in a incomplete brawl demo.


which still makes no sense.

Ah, I thought what he posted below it was his signature.
Still a fail, just wait until the game comes out, unless we were going to be having "Brawl demo tournaments" and a whole community based on a demo, theres no point in focusing on it.

 

[Che_Lab]

TOURNEY RULES:

No items
No having fun
No stages where fox loses
No not fox

FINAL DESTINATION.

Incorrect, you ignorant fool. I would prove you wrong but I'm too lazy and this has done hundreds of times before. For the record, fox is my favorite character to combo and I play competetively. I also have fun playing competetively and so do most who do.

 

[yogho]

Ah, I thought what he posted below it was his signature.
Still a fail, just wait until the game comes out, unless we were going to be having "Brawl demo tournaments" and a whole community based on a demo, theres no point in focusing on it.

Stop talking about that tournament sh*t.
And if you can tell me why tournaments and tiers are the most important thing in this game you get a lollipop

TOURNEY RULES:

No items
No having fun
No stages where fox loses
No not fox

FINAL DESTINATION.

Tourney Rules:

Space animals
space animals must use signature move (down+b) as often as they can.

 

[pablovirus]

pffff....what's up with the "pros" and their tiers and tournament crap.

Seriously ITS JUST A GAME! I own a pro fox user with luigi. Tiers mean nothing to me.

And you did not even played the game yet! Why are so many people so into this tier stuff? It's like people who talk about this subject are instantly getting a orgasm when they see stuff they like.

And when sheik is gone for example they go: NOOOOO i hate this game! I want sheik now! And fox better not be nerfed and I WILL KICK SAKURAI'S *** IF WAVEDASH IS GONE!

But this is what they say when u look through those words: "I can't play without glitches and easy to control characters".

I puke on you kind of people!

You statements are opinion based / not justified. Fox is not easy to control, wtf are you saying?
And people who wavedash can be good even without it. Wavedashing doesn't make one person better than the other by ITSELF. The better player would still win even if he couldnt wavedash -.-
I highly doubt you own a "pro fox player with luigi" (who will most likely wavedash and abuse the so called glitches) if you say things like that.

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

TOURNEY RULES:

No items
No having fun
No stages where fox loses
No not fox

FINAL DESTINATION.

Except many of the banned stages are banned because Fox is practically unbeatable on them....
And tournament players want the top characters to be less dominant WAY more than casual players do, because it almost forces you to play Fox/Falco/Sheik/Marth/Peach/Falcon/etc if you want a serious chance at winning, even if you like other characters more. Whereas casual players usually can't use the characters well enough for the imbalance to be particularly noticeable.

 

[Lemon Drop]

This topic makes no sense. Tier list without full roster is bizarre.

 

[Tobi-]

This thread needs to be closed, now.

Where is moderator when we need one online.

 

[yogho]

You statements are opinion based / not justified. Fox is not easy to control, wtf are you saying?
And people who wavedash can be good even without it. Wavedashing doesn't make one person better than the other by ITSELF. The better player would still win even if he couldnt wavedash -.-
I highly doubt you own a "pro fox player with luigi" (who will most likely wavedash and abuse the so called glitches) if you say things like that.

Then you are a different then the most people i see here. If you only play melee/brawl with high tiers cause people say it's a high tier then i hate you. BUT, if you play fox because you like him and you do not wave dash and you lose now and then, then i don't insult you.

I do own a player who "masterd" fox and uses wavedash etc etc. You know why, because i have a heart and soul for melee and he doesn't. He plays this game and says he's good cause he masterd wavedash and uses a character that's number 1 on a made up list. Cause tiers list is nothing official.

That's why i always win from him.

 

[Youko]

No determining tiers from a DEMO, please.