MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
Whenever I dthrow a floatie they just DI away and jump, and I can't do anything to follow up.
Any help??
Any help??
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Throw combo(s) on floaties?
- Thread starter MikeHaggarTHAKJB
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Phiddlesticks
Smash Lord
Don't dthrow?
Bailey
Smash Hero
If something doesn't work. Don't keep trying it
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Uthrow has set knockback, I believe, so if you can get something to work off of that, that'd be good. You could chase with dthrow with a fair if you're know they're going to jump, but otherwise, there's not a whole lot you can do. Bthrow, maybe, to throw off their DI? No pun intended.
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
Usually you can't chase their jump out of the dthrow, you won't have enough time to reach them even if you dash ASAP. Bowser is to slow.
Uthrow is good, against many semi floaties (like, marth type fall-speed) you can combo it into a fair if they don't DI. If they DI away I think they can do an attack or jump before your fair can connect
Many floaties like Samus/Luigi and even the Marios go to high/far to reach them fast enough, though.
Uthrow->chase jump maybe? You'll have more time to do that then with the dthrow, and Bowser has pretty good priority so he should be able to keep an opponent above him.
Gotta test the bthrow thing. I know you can combo from fox's bthrow if they DI into it, might be the same with bowsers XD
Bowser is to slow.Uthrow is good, against many semi floaties (like, marth type fall-speed) you can combo it into a fair if they don't DI. If they DI away I think they can do an attack or jump before your fair can connect
Many floaties like Samus/Luigi and even the Marios go to high/far to reach them fast enough, though.
Uthrow->chase jump maybe? You'll have more time to do that then with the dthrow, and Bowser has pretty good priority so he should be able to keep an opponent above him.
Gotta test the bthrow thing. I know you can combo from fox's bthrow if they DI into it, might be the same with bowsers XD
Yhea I know, that's why I'm asking what to do
elvenarrow3000
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Keep in mind, no matter what you do, it's still Bowser. You're limited by his vast amounts of suck.
TrikELotus
Smash Apprentice
Use a small stage, throw off the edge, edgeguard w/ fair? Probably what you're sposed to do, anyway.
Bailey
Smash Hero
Just Down Throw Pichu, Game and Watch and Jiggs
KingJiggyWiggy
Smash Lord
Bailey you are wrong wrong WRONG. Down-throw does zero damage to Game&Watch. Good luck chain throwing floaties, I haven't found a Jiggs I could chain throw yet. I might have in the past but it has been so long since I have played this game at a tournament.
elvenarrow3000
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Just because it doesn't do damage doesn't mean it's not useful. Also, he wasn't talking about chain grabs, just potential combos.
KingJiggyWiggy
Smash Lord
It isn't useful. Any decent G&W will jump out.
elvenarrow3000
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They could get hit while jumping out. Have any better ideas?
hahahahaha
grab combos?
the only real grab "combos" bowser has are the following
on heavy/fast fallers dthrow tech chase
on heavy/fast fallers klaw fthrow missed di fair
on fast fallers klaw fthrow missed di up air
on fast fallers up throw missed di ftilt
the following combos do not work
on not heavy or fast fallers grab/klaw -> anything
why are you trying to grab combo floaties? LOL
grab combos?
the only real grab "combos" bowser has are the following
on heavy/fast fallers dthrow tech chase
on heavy/fast fallers klaw fthrow missed di fair
on fast fallers klaw fthrow missed di up air
on fast fallers up throw missed di ftilt
the following combos do not work
on not heavy or fast fallers grab/klaw -> anything
why are you trying to grab combo floaties? LOL
elvenarrow3000
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Wow. That's kinda depressing.
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
So what should you do if you grab someone who isn't a fast-faller? Throw towards the edge and (try to) setup for an edgeguard?
KingJiggyWiggy
Smash Lord
There you have it. Bowser has no real chain throws even for his up-air. Everyone I play always DIs out of the throws. Thanks for bailing me out of an argument Gimpy!
BTW here is another good match-up: Ice Climbers.
BTW here is another good match-up: Ice Climbers.
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
No it's possible to reach them fast enough even if they DI away. I'm pretty sure it's inescapeable, i just don't think gimpy listed it as a combo since a cg isn't a "normal" combo
elvenarrow3000
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...KingJiggyWiggy, we're not talking about chain throws.
chainthrows that work
fox/falco/falcon up throw when they di away
fox/falco/falcon klaw fthrow no di or di towards
there you go - didn't include that because i wasn't thinking of chaingrab as a combo - but i listed tech chase grab somehow LOL
a majority of the time vs anything your best option is to just throw them off the edge and setup for an edgeguard - even/especially on fox/falco.
fox/falco/falcon up throw when they di away
fox/falco/falcon klaw fthrow no di or di towards
there you go - didn't include that because i wasn't thinking of chaingrab as a combo - but i listed tech chase grab somehow LOL
a majority of the time vs anything your best option is to just throw them off the edge and setup for an edgeguard - even/especially on fox/falco.
KingJiggyWiggy
Smash Lord
w00h00t! *claps*
Thank you again Gimpy you took the words right out of my mouth!
Thank you again Gimpy you took the words right out of my mouth!
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
wait,can they jump out with di towards/no di? I thought uthrow always cg'd on ff:ers