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Three Years of Speculating SSB 3DS & Wii U has come to a close... (SPOILER WARNING)

What are you looking forward to the most?

  • Veterans

    Votes: 88 49.4%
  • Newcomers

    Votes: 124 69.7%
  • Online

    Votes: 85 47.8%
  • Smash Run (on 3DS only)

    Votes: 47 26.4%
  • Single-Player

    Votes: 60 33.7%
  • Multi-player

    Votes: 97 54.5%
  • Musics

    Votes: 80 44.9%
  • Gameplay

    Votes: 106 59.6%
  • Stages

    Votes: 70 39.3%
  • Items

    Votes: 43 24.2%
  • Interconnectivity between the 3DS and Wii U

    Votes: 39 21.9%
  • Others (please specify)

    Votes: 14 7.9%

  • Total voters
    178

Reila

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I am extremely lucky for only getting into Smash 4 speculation last year, so I didn't have to "suffer" three whole years of speculation. I am also lucky because most of the newcomers please me in a way or another. I like "wut" characters, so Wii Fit Trainer pleases me. Mega Man, Duck Hunt, Pac-Man and the Koopalings/Koopa Clown Car were a big part of my childhood, so having them in Smash is so surreal, to the point I didn't even consider the idea of they ever being playable (except for Mega Man, of course. After Sonic in Brawl, he was the next most logical choice for a third party rep).

Villager represents the game which is most likely my favorite 3DS title, Animal Crossing New Leaf (although their designs aren't from New Leaf, sadly). Rosalina represents one of the best home console games of the past generation, Mario Galaxy, plus she brings something new and unique in terms of play style. Palutena is a pretty cool addiction and I supported her even before playing Kid Icarus Uprising. Honestly, I am not pleased by her portrayal in Smash 4, so I am not sure if I will play her, but that doesn't change the fact she "deserves" being playable in the new games. I don't have strong ties to Little Mac, but he reminds me of Ippo so he is okay in my books, plus Punch Out!! Wii is a fun game (with a great soundtrack!).

Robin makes me happy since she is the first Fire Emblem character who isn't a plain swords(wo)man, being a Tactician/Mage. Plus, I am playing Awakening currently and it is a decent game (sorry!). Lucina and Dark Pit are clones, there are clones in every new Smash game, so I don't really mind them. Dark Pit is a cool character in Uprising, so that helps, too. Mii Fighters are the face of the Wii/DS generation, so they totally deserved to be in Smash, too. The only addition I kind of dislike is Greninja, because the only reason it was added was to fit the usual Pokémon quota. They should have brought Mewtwo back to please its fan instead of adding Greninja to the roster (and likely saving Mewtwo for DLC) or simply not added any Pokémon newcomer at all.

On the subject of characters, Ice Climbers being cut from Smash Bros was quite sad, but the reason they were cut makes it a lot more tolerable to me. Ice Climbers is a price I am willing to pay to have a handheld version of Super Smash Bros. 4, without a shadow of doubt. Since the day I played Jump Ultimate Stars, having Smash in a handheld became one of my pipe dreams and it is finally being realized! Thanks, Nintendo!

As for the poll options, I voted for Veterans, Newcomers, Single Player, Online, Multi Player, Music, Stages, Gameplay. The online in special is what I am looking forward the most for, since I don't really have friends who play games, let alone Nintendo games, so the only way I have to play Smash multi player is online. Hopefully Nintendo will patch any exploits that might eventually happen, in order to keep the online experience enjoyable for years to come.

I do have a few criticisms on Smash 4, though. The lack of My Music, the stupid limit of two musics for each stage and the mediocre number of stages in the 3DS version, Ridley once again not being playable (though he still have a chance, the way I see it), Lucina and Dark Pit being almost 1:1 clones of Marth and Pit are a few of my criticisms. In the end, though, I am mostly satisfied with Smash 4. Like 85/15 in terms of satisfaction/disappointment.

Welp, I ended up typing a lot more than I intended to. :p
 

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They still haven't found Ridley or Isaac trophies? I remember about five days ago they said they hadn't found them. Are they still MIA? Also, Bandana Dee's trophy was supposedly undiscovered. Do you know if this the case?
People have looked into the files, Ridley, Isaac and Bandana Dee simply don't have trophies on the 3DS, they don't exist. They're probably Wii U exclusives considering Ridley has a role on that version, and version exclusive ATs is apparently a thing.

Anyways, for the topic on hand I voted veterans, multiplayer and gameplay, most of the veterans look better than ever, and the gameplay is exactly what I hoped it'd be. The newcomers aren't bad either, but they don't really impress me, the same goes for the online and the stages, so they're kind of in a middle ground. I'm a bit conflicted whether I'm happy I participated in pre-Smash 4 speculation to be honest, I sure didn't enjoy it as much as I did with Brawl, I think there was a lot of hostility from people in general, but I've always just used it as a time dump so it's not like I'd have done anything more constructive anyways. Either way in the end I guess I've just been okay with the experience, though I can say for sure that I have absolutely no plans on ever participating in pre-Smash speculation again, it's too time-consuming and I have no reason to go into it again knowing that Sakurai does not want Ridley as a character, who is the sole reason I even came back for Smash 4 speculation, I'd rather just wait for the game to come out then so I can begin reading and discussing the gameplay, metagame and veterans instead.
 
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I got into speculation only in late 2012, so I haven't suffered quite as much, as I think I might come back for the next speculation.

Admittedly, I didn't get any of my top wants (Isaac or K. Rool), but a I did minorly want over half of the newcomers - Villager, Mega Man, Palutena, Robin, Little Mac, Bowser Jr, Pac-Man. Duck Hunt Dog and Dr. Mario were pleasant surprises too. Dark Pit is really the only character I'm unhappy about. The biggest downfall about the roster were the cuts. Hopefully DLC will fix that.

The rest of the game looks absolutely fabulous in every way, Music is breathtakingly awesome, so are he new stages and assist trophies. The single player modes also got expanded big time.

The over-abundance of Kid Icarus is something that really bothers me, as other franchises like StarFox and DK got shafted hard. Fire Emblem and Mario also got a ton of content, but I'm happy about them as they really quite deserved them. At least, the trophy selection for the 3DS version is very good and has a nice spread.

On the poll, I selected all except for Interconnectivity. I'm not planning to get a Wii U, so that's doesn't interest me.
 

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They still haven't found Ridley or Isaac trophies? I remember about five days ago they said they hadn't found them. Are they still MIA? Also, Bandana Dee's trophy was supposedly undiscovered. Do you know if this the case?
I'm fairly certain this is true. I think that it was confirmed that their skins are not present.

I could see Isaac just being left out altogether... I mean, Golden Sun is pretty obscure to the general community these days. But why would he be cut from Assist Trophy to not present at all? Especially when far more obscure characters are returning AT's? I think Isaac is probably one of the Wii U characters, thus...

Bandana Dee... I don't know. I think it's odd to be completely missing from the game, especially since we know how Sakurai is about his own franchises (though I don't think Bandana Dee is a Sakurai-made character, right?). But he's a popular enough character to warrant at least a trophy. Again, far more random characters have trophies. Look at the amount of Awakening trophies. I know the game is amazing and sold really well but damn. Sakurai went really FE-Happy this time. I'm hesitant to say that BDee is in the Wii U version... But his lack of existence makes me question it as a possibility

Ridley though. I believe Ridley is playable. Sakurai's a troll but I honestly think his final trolls about Ridley are purple Charizard and him not being in 3DS by default. I don't think he'd truly string everyone along for this amount of time. And Dark Pit proves that he's willing to show characters previous to their announcement so... I'm thinking Ridley's a thing. If there's Wii U transfer characters, Ridley's got to be one of them.
 

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I had followed the hype of Brawl scrupulously, and when the new Smash Bros. was announced, I didn't have that same feeling towards it. It was more contained I guess.
And since I hadn't followed it's hype closely, I took it less and less serious upon hearing that Wii Fit Trainer and Mii's were announced. I honestly figured I wouldn't even pick it up.

Fast-forward to August sometime, I saw a "leaked" picture of the CSS (it turned out to be fake, but had around 50 characters), and just the general possibility of who could fill those 20 something slots made me run wild with hype. And here I am today. I think the real bonus in all of this for me, is that since I hadn't suffered for nearly as long as majority of the community, I think I've got the sheer will to hold out for the Wii U version, expecting no delays obviously. If there's a delay, than I'm screwed...
 

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I joined slightly Pre-E3 2013, and while I didn't get some of my wants, I got Rosalina. (like seriously, why did no one predict her??) and Robin. Still not thrilled about Pac Man, but I'll get over him, Megaman more than makes up for it. Honestly, despite initially disliking the idea of Miis and DHD, I really like how Sakurai (and co.) translated them into Smash.
 

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I unfortunately started my 3 years on Gamefaqs, which was a lot like this site, except a bazillion times worse in every way possible. Seriously, worst forum I ever went on, leaving it was the best move in my life, besides quitting a job that almost killed a co-worker one time...

Oh how times have changed, things were exciting, newcomers were up in the air, some people really thought Captain Falcon would not return, arguments about the size of space dragons were had, what a time. Easily the best moments for me were the reveals for Little Mac and Rosalina, too characters I kind of adore a little, the worst was seeing the hype come to an end. It was fun, and I can't wait to pick up the game next month.

When it comes to Ridley, I can honestly care less either way, but I wouldn't mind his inclusion for the sake of his fans. Yeah he is kind of big, and shrinking him down would make him a toothpick, but if his fans are willing to put up with either, so be it, we'll play out the legendary battle between a giant space dragon and a dog/duck duo. Admit it, you want to see that one.
 

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I unfortunately started my 3 years on Gamefaqs, which was a lot like this site, except a bazillion times worse in every way possible. Seriously, worst forum I ever went on, leaving it was the best move in my life, besides quitting a job that almost killed a co-worker one time...

Oh how times have changed, things were exciting, newcomers were up in the air, some people really thought Captain Falcon would not return, arguments about the size of space dragons were had, what a time. Easily the best moments for me were the reveals for Little Mac and Rosalina, too characters I kind of adore a little, the worst was seeing the hype come to an end. It was fun, and I can't wait to pick up the game next month.

When it comes to Ridley, I can honestly care less either way, but I wouldn't mind his inclusion for the sake of his fans. Yeah he is kind of big, and shrinking him down would make him a toothpick, but if his fans are willing to put up with either, so be it, we'll play out the legendary battle between a giant space dragon and a dog/duck duo. Admit it, you want to see that one.
Rosalina was easily my favorite newcomer, obviously. I can't wait to try the newcomers the most out of everything.

Side note: Other M Ridley wouldn't make him look like a toothpick. He'd be skinny-ish but not look like scrawny old lady. ^^
 

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Well it's over!!! Finally!!!
I have been around the Smash speculation since Brawl lol, but did not look so much into it until E3 2013. That is when I got REALLY into it.

A highlight for me would be the reveal of Megaman, sooo much hype, and the reveal of Wii Fit Trainer and Villager were welcome surprises as well. Rosalina was a big surprise even though I was expecting Toad, but I liked here gameplay style, it was very unique. I really wanted Little Mac, I did not see his trailer first though, due to the stream for it messing up. So I heard he was in the game second hand by some guy flipping out about it on a forum post. Then I flipped out since him and Megaman were really wanted characters for me. The way they implemented the Miis is tbh the best way they could have put them in the game, I was totally against them at first then I changed my mind once they were announced! Characters like Robin and Greninja are characters I am really hyped for since I am big fans of both characters. Paultena and Shulk look OP as **** LOL! And my god ****ing PacMan is in!!!! Also Duck Hunt Dog, best retro rep, period!

The Gameplay this time around is Much MUCH better, it seems a lot more polished, all the characters at least have something good for them and seem pretty balanced (Thank god for no Tripping).

The Music MY GOD YES!!! Best Smash soundtrack I would say EVER!!!

Well even though I see this game as so far pretty amazing, I have a couple draw backs. I think Dark Pit inclusion as a bit unnecessary (I know he was probably an "extra" character, along with Dr.Mario and Lucina) the fact he is a clone when he holds his own damn weapon bothers me a lot... Also I think most of the cuts in this game made sense and had good reason around them, Wolf being cut though makes no sense too me what so ever. Also it seems this time around the blasts zones are much farther away which makes matchs MUCH longer and can make things kinda boring.
I still think the game is pretty amazing and I love Dr. Mario being back, even though most people don't.
There has been many twists and turns for me, the Gematsu leak, the ESRB leaks, everything! It's been an amazing time but hell I think it will be my last time spending this amount of time on speculation LOL!
 

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It has been a pretty crazy ride all things considered. I originally didn't really plan to stick around for long as I more or less originally just wanted to drop by my Professor Layton support thread as I had a lot of ideas for that, after that I had been pretty inactive every few months or so until I decided to become a bit more active on this site later on.

I didn't really get any of my more wanted characters in but I did get a few I liked to see such as Rosalina and Palutena. After playing Animal Crossing New Leaf (after the Villager was first revealed), I did get a newfound interest in the Villager so I decided early on that if there weren't any newcomers I was too interested in that I'd be maining him for this new installment.

And then there was this whole Toon Link debacle with the Spirit Train stage and all..... Glad that one got sorted during the earlier parts of the release speculation.

All in all, it was pretty fun speculating with people here and all, I have to admit, it was quite calmer than the speculation days of Brawl, but that one was pretty wild and filled with very high and unrealistic expectations so maybe that's for the best. I've also become a mod later on this year which was quite a surprise for me. So now that the 3DS version is almost out, I guess we will be at the final stage soon. Playing the game and discussing everything about the meta game and all. And then there is also the Wii U version's release to look forward to.

I'm not sure if I will stick around for too long as I do have some real life plans I'm hoping to get sorted out but I will try to stick around here for as long as I can.
 

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Whoo boy. It's been a wild, wild ride.


Around the time when this was announced, I used to be lurk around Nintendo Database- seeing this via live stream and chatting with other members. There was of course many other big games coming up for me to see (Kirby's Epic Yarn, Kid Icarus Uprising, etc). I remembered lurking around here a little bit when Brawl was out but in that time I was living in Africa due cultural reasons and didn't hear hpw crazy that's speculation was. I came here soon after the announcement.

Lots of things went about as I chatted with new friends made through the "New Smash Bros for Wii U and 3DS"-thread, speculation being centered on building on what made Brawl great with this day's big things from critically acclaimed games, looking forward to see the roster getting more completed with many fan favourites and heavily requested veterans like Mewtwo or Roy coming back. As KI:Uprising approached closer and closer, we started to speculate and guess things based on what that game had to offer since it was the closest of thing for us to see where Sakurai would go or had created new things to go put in newest Smash. Around those times (Autumn 2012 I think) I expressed wanting Palutena after seeing how she was really likable through her personality, for what I expected her to become "an ensemble darkhorse sidekick authority" due Medusa and Pit being then top contenders for best KI-representation. But definitely so were many else.

Of course, came then E3 2013 that would show us the newest Smash (finally) after eons of waiting. Before then I picked up Animal Crossing: Wild World for just 5 euros from some cheap electronics store (Same place where I'd also buy Tetris DS and Planet Puzzle League from, no kidding). Really grew to love that game and couldn't wait for New Leaf, so seeing Villager was a neat surprise despite him being the only shown newcomer... at first. Mega Man is of course something I absolutely approved and new was hope and justice meant to be fulfilled for the Blue Bomber after what all he went through from Capcom before. And him coming back to his "bonding family" of sorts was just heartwarming to see all over the internet.

And then came Wii Fit Trainer who I thought was first an Assist, but was shown to be playable. I was clearly devastated. Smash Bros lost all of it's "All Star"-factor to me and I was quite dead set on not wanting to buy it then. Of course, an ordinary knee-jerk reaction, but the game was just announced and already they showed to me that they were merely going to "scrape bottom of the barrel".

Anyway, I supported such characters as Starfy, Lip, Toad, Palutena and Dixie - and to lesser extent Saki (I liked his game and generally as an Assist) and Isaac (due getting into Golden Sun) along with other hugely supported to make for best Smash to be in means of roster since Brawl. FE-reps I was indifferent on due expecting traditions to go on, and was just about to get into FE anyway through FE 7. I also revisited Starfy-games since playing the 3rd one around 2007.

But who would have guessed, things would go on not really go "my way". Toad was already shown as a special to Peach when Peach came about. While I knew to start throwing nails in the coffin, many Toad's supporters kept holding on the theory of "many Toads" to amend for Toad still getting a spot (Alfonso supporting this went pretty far to help this theory, but I was still sceptical). After Rosalina's sudden spread of playable appearances and promotion, it was to be more visible that she'd become a potential newcomer. And well, she did. At least Toad not being in wasn't as bitter since I was basically seeing it from miles away.

However, something struck me: Rosalina had Luma with her, which basically screamed potential of what Starfy could have been able to do (throw attacks despite having small limbs). Starfy's chances in general shot down big-time to me and boy, that wasn't fun at all. The breaking point came when I saw Sakurai merely dismiss him as "yellow thing", just cementing a big fact that he treated Starfy as a mere joke despite my big attachment to the swimming star and his marine platformers. Left forums some time after - and with it, a pretty cringe-worthy reaction from the community and speculators I was close with. I didn't find it a surprise that I was called an emo wanting attention at worst and dealing with something as petty as a videogame speculation.

After a while I just had general depression with school stuff (personal personal). Little Mac's revealed made things feel good for a while though as it was someone I was familiar with all on (I LOVE Punch-Out) and was all welcoming to see in Smash. I then tried to come on acceptance of just letting things come as they are because I had nothing to much lose anymore. Lip was just becoming less and less of a possibility despite her grown popularity again like in Pre-Brawl era and Palutena the point was becoming more and more of a shoe-in. FE-reps were still something for me to be indifferent and inactive on despite taking parts on some debates here and there, such as about Lyndis VS Roy in means of FE-representation or who was a better character. Along with just waiting on Chrom due being too attached on him to even complain if we'd get him at the end despite me also being in stance of wanting more proper FE-representation after clearing FE 7. (Gematsu-leak era...)
I remember liking being a Tactician in Awakening though, it was great to just be a mage and a swordsman at the same time. Best of both worlds.
I think I was being content with the what I expected to be the ending result, not really wanting to test my mettles with seeing proper FE-representation through other units and going against traditions: when it top of it I'd get a lord I also liked a lot in my game.

So what then happened? I made some weird alter ego account to mask myself with "growth" of sorts and try go on with a "new start". It didn't go on long as people would find that the new member was still Young Horsetail and just had to have his posts emerged together with his more "mature" account. *Snicker*. I wrote on still with italics, but later on I knew I just had to drop acting like some high-strung zen man and just truly move on.

I guess it started to emerge on me starting from the April's Smash Direct. Around the time when the direct was live world-wide, it cut on me suddenly around the end. I'd be naturally flailing all over the place in anxiety over the ending and what was to come around it. When my internet finally got back working, I made sure to avoid spoilers and checked what it was.
Newcomer trailer, yeah. Pokemon-themed. Expected Mewtwo, but around when the shadow seemed a bit too oriental-like I thought it would be Takamaru. (Though he'd use Inazuma Lightning around the Water Shuriken-part)

Turns out it was Greninja.

I was... suprised. Not angry. Not disappointed. Just well, surprised. I guess the best what I think was being annoying then was being... wrong?
I remember wanting to have Froakie right from the time X & Y was revealed, perhaps due my grown liking to Water-types back then. Besides he just seemed most peculiar and expressive of the starters. Around the times when his final form was shown through a leak, I was one of those people not very high on his final design being some weird ninja frog thing, instead thinking he'd become something like those Wind Gods from LOZ: Wind Waker. After seeing him being still funnily frog-like and perhaps even adorkable in Poke-Amie in someone else's game screenshots, I grew to like Greninja and just went with it. Loved him as a Mon, he reminded me a lot of the fragile speedsters archetypes I'd sometimes associate with mages or specially based Mons like Golden Sun's Ivan, Tales of Symphonia's Genis and my last major team member in White 2 before getting X & Y, Galvantula (who I named after Ivan due being similar in means of themes, stats/archetype and affinity. Cute thing who could mean business but was squishy.).
Also my initial interest on being a competitive Pokemon-fan grew around White 2-times, as I was part of the general Charizard-bandwagon of olden Pokemon-days, I found Zard and Nin-G to present both my childhood, and current generation of myself as Pokemon-fan, respectively.

Seeing Greninja there felt pretty strange first, since he was just one of the just many, like thrown in to the mix after a roulette over likes of Mewtwo. However, it was then that I realized that it could have been worse. I would have gotten someone I wasn't "acquainted" with instead of Greninja, which meant less newcomer I didn't expect, but otherwise was familiar and liking of from their source game: just not looking to see them pop in Smash of all places. Still would be kinda sad that there'd be no Mewtwo but eh.

E3 2014 would then come and while I missed it (something I really find sad) it might just had been one of the more loved E3s due the funny Robot Chicken-skits, finding out that Miis let us see Reggie and Iwata duel it out crazy and lastly get to see one of my most wanted newcomers be finally in the game in that elegancy I just wanted her be. (Aside from the anime-part that I didn't find that all fancy, but cheers for the great effort!). And in meantime the character I wanted to be in Smash gets perhaps even better than that: get finally his own game with absolutely big budget and promotion on E3 in that level of a major Mario 3D-title. It was definitely a great summer and I was quite looking forward to see what came with the rest after watching the Invitational. Oh, and Pac-Man proved better than I expected him to be after initial sad leaving of supporting Lloyd Irving and just hoping they'd do Pac-Man well.

Then around June's middle, we'd hear about the newcomer being revealed now on Monday straight out. Many ran then around with Gematsu-leak as their prophecy artifact that ruined speculation to others. I could feel it too due not seeing Dixie after Chrom, but being interested on Chrous Kids. Needless to say, I'd even blurp ironically about the folk seeing Chrom somewhere in the future on other trailer because we were being told that we'd see Shulk. Also stuff about Sakurai perhaps proving with his usual genius that he could make Chrom unique.

I was proven wrong. Like, really really wrong.

Robin came and stealed the show. Proved to take on Falcon even better than his comrade, now laying down hurt after being presumably beaten, did. Lucina appeared to be a clone. Sad.

At first I thought we got everyone due the craziness of the trailer which had me squeal because FIRE EMBLEM DONE RIGHT. WITH MAGIC. OMG.

Sadly enough, that wasn't to be the case. Chrom was confirmed not being a playable after all (GEMATSUGOTREKT) and now was turning into it's scapegoat to the leak being humiliated (along with Chrom's support in general) in form of sheer mockery and being butt-of-the-jokes-on "Ha Ha Chrom won't be part of Nintendo's Best of All Stars after all, Captain Falcon also is a GOD ALL BOW DOWN TO HIM (who is Robin, I bet he at least is sided with Falcon on proving that he kicked the guy out of the roster). And yada yada. Robin's fans going all the way out to be jerkasses back on any Chrom-supporter despite being treated badly by their more bandwagony and Gematsu-driven supporters, made me just resent Robin's inclusion as it again meant that we couldn't have everybody, and the one who was left behind, would be mocked and laughed for being left out of all the fun and getting any respectable title on his belt. Reminded of more painful times of my childhood, for sure. But I just had more empathy than humour on this issue and that's why I couldn't bear much on looking forward to rest of the roster.

****ing Internet and Sakurai for turning Chrom look like a joke now around then. I really liked him despite admitting before that he wasn't that big on moveset potential, but at the end, I didn't really care what came because on FE I was a traditionalist + defeatist on idea with FE-representation being made better in this game.

Like I said a lot, it took me a while to come back here again because I was perhaps done with Smash Bros as a series at this point when coming on it's internet fame. I have to always see characters mocked and characters being praised based on whether they make it in Smash or not. Remembering how (Captain) Toad got a new game, I decided to keep supporting him and Chrom on despite them missing the boat for this Smash (and maybe for good, if Sakurai might stay on that stance). I thought it mattered more to at least see your character emerge on still despite not being in the most biggest All-star Fighter next to Marvel VS Capcom-series and definitely most biggest Nintendo-franchise (though I'd just call it it's official culmination milestone celebration series rather than a franchise that tops all of the franchises it features).

When I got deeper into seeing more stuff about Robin, I just grew to like the character perhaps again after looking into him as a whole instead of getting clouded with resentment and hate from his fans. Perhaps also talking back to them about how their behaviour was about as dumb as those Chrom-fans who were as mean to them. All ends well though as I got more along with them after we talked more about things we shared as FE-fans and finding more polite supporters. After so, my liking to Robin returned, as his inclusion was miles ton better than that of Greninja's in means of "surprise good". The guy not only brought FE the way it was meant to be, he was based on the favourite class I had in Awakening and was even given his own identity fully now instead of oversaturating on the Avatar-concept with likes of Villager and Miis. As I read character analyses and browsed fan stuff about him, Robin grew instantly to become into my most favourite newcomer. I think it was inevitable though, it was just deterred by Internet messing with Chrom. Chrom though getting still love despite not being playable (an amazing outcome to him for not having any moveset potential) had me also rest fully in peace with what came to FE-representation. While I didn't get everyone, I got the best second scenario becoming true. I wish Lucina was still more of a semi-clone though, I might have even thought she would have been more superior to Chrom as a newcomer in tradition of blue-haired swords user actually. Even if my interest on her grew after she was shown in Smash.

Anyway, after started to emerge new leaks through Ninka-Kiwi's and vaanrose's leaks. I read stuff about Bowser Jr being shown along with Dark Pit and Doc returning, while also hearing Duck Hunt Dog and Shulk being last of the fellas. I found Doc bit odd, but Pittoo had me quite in disdain. Something though that popped in my eyes was Bowser Jr. getting Koopalings as his alts.

Roster images, videos and other things emerged, which of course, proved all of the above being true (to more or less extent). I again readied myself for the worst case scenario with ESRB-leak's roster being the final one. Of course I wasn't too happy with the cuts and still seeing Pittoo as a character, but he was merely a clone with treats Sakurai would give to his baby. Ah well. However, I'd then see Larry being a trophy - on a Koopa Clown Car no less! It just meant that I'd get one more "unexpected happy surprise" on being a playable character in Smash.
That'd be Lemmy Koopa through my fondness to him in Mario Kart 8. His child-like joy and playful nature reminded me highly of myself when being little and enjoying my time around thrilling rides or adventures - sometimes found in videogames like Mario Kart, no less!

Shulk was a nice surprise also, I got a (broken) copy of Xenoblade and played it just that enough bit to know his funny way of jumping, recognizing Dunban and Back Slash-skill and finally knowing Shulk's tendency to "feels" through saying one cliche quote to me after clearing some sidequest: "I can feel the power!". His trailer proved pretty damn sweet too, but perhaps too awesome to leave me melancholed on the newcomers I wished to see in Smash never getting this awesome trailer tributing and making their spotlighted as best as they can be to the audiences before them, new and old.

When the game would come out much earlier than usual last weeks ago, I kept my eyes glued to see Lemmy up along with other Koopalings. Gladly they were confirmed along with other things. The ESRB-leak proved to be final after all, which'd finally end the speculation for good to me. It meant no Dixie, but after a while I got to accept that anyway after all the last losses. Also Chorus Kids wasn't too difficult to let go due me not being entirely clear on their moveset or potential despite some great ideas.
TL;DR:

When looking at what all I went through, I noticed that despite losing characters I wanted to see in Smash as fighters, I seemed to always gain something great or cool back in return. Perhaps through sheer irony of realizing what I truly wanted, or just receiving characters I liked already in their own games, but just wasn't ready to see them pop in Smash.

- Starfy Greninja
- Lip Villager
- Chrom Robin
- Toad Lemmy
- Dixie Shulk (To some degree, due familiarity + great moveset + resemblance to Project M!-Roy in means of moveset)
- Palutena

When looking on it all, along with perhaps best Assist Trophy-lineup to be since Brawl's somewhat mook-invested one, I think I got generally very lucky at the end. Despite me perhaps missing some of the characters I wanted to see in Smash before in the last years, I'd be as devastated to see what I got in place to go, and am very happy and glad that they're here to join me on this Smash as means of having as great options as the ones I wanted to see personally - or even better. I'm glad I sticked right to the end for all that.

For those liking the clones I don't dig much (Pittoo for example), don't give a damn about those who don't like 'em, enjoy them to be joining the crazy fray. I'll be doing the same as well. Being a Mii Fighter also adds new fun to that along with some reworked veterans I'm looking forward to play as.

So yeah. I'm really glad I stayed, or came back despite my overly "emo" departures due sheer disappointment and also trying to deal with rather negative feels regarding certain times. Right now I'm almost close to graduation, and I just have two exams to write for this week before being finally done. My birthday is also this Saturday, fittingly to follow with Smash 4's release next week. Speaking of Smash 4, it looks just beyond amazing, plays well in my initial hands now, and just is crafted to brim with love (aside from certain questionable design choices or missed opportunities.) I wish I could send some big "THANK YOU"-thing of sorts to Sakurai and Nintendo in general, but perhaps when I'm more capable someday.

I now pray that when next Smash comes, we get to finally have certain "missing" fan favourites finally fill the rest of the roster. Can't really bank on that sure-firedly anymore, but eh, anything can happen between period of 6-9 years before Iwata drags Sakurai's poor ass to do a new Smash. Until so, kudos once again the Dad of Kirby, my most beloved VG character of all time, and the creator of most beloved crossover series to me and all of the community before me as well. You've truly written yourself to history and won't ever be forgotten as long as videogames will stay as part of our culture. I hope you'll always keep inspiring me with your sheer devotion and love to the characters (that you like, ahahah).

Anyway, we shall dine in Super Smash Bros 4 3DS next week. And Wii U to follow soon after. Also ORAS being right in the corner, which tops this amazing year for me being the "nostalgia trip" year due Sapphire being my first Pokemon-game. Can't wait.

Lastly, thanks to all of you who sticked with me through all these years despite my initial immature way of writing (lolanimu). I feel however bad for leaving some buddies not much in contact with (for example @Oasis). I hope I can still talk.

So um, yeah. Little cricket has grown up.
 
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@ ~ Valkyrie ~ ~ Valkyrie ~ Glad to see your thoughts on the pre-SSB4 period. Both of us were here during the three year period since SSB4 got announced, so we can both relate in that. I'll always remember you for your Blue Kirby with a hat avatar.
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dem gamers these days, they don't know what they want. back in the old day, we always knew what we wanted for christmas and that was it. :troll:

But seriously, I'd have to imagined if you felt anything like how I did when it came to getting Brawl. My hype was crazy for it.
I unfortunately started my 3 years on Gamefaqs, which was a lot like this site, except a bazillion times worse in every way possible. Seriously, worst forum I ever went on, leaving it was the best move in my life, besides quitting a job that almost killed a co-worker one time...

Oh how times have changed, things were exciting, newcomers were up in the air, some people really thought Captain Falcon would not return, arguments about the size of space dragons were had, what a time. Easily the best moments for me were the reveals for Little Mac and Rosalina, too characters I kind of adore a little, the worst was seeing the hype come to an end. It was fun, and I can't wait to pick up the game next month.

When it comes to Ridley, I can honestly care less either way, but I wouldn't mind his inclusion for the sake of his fans. Yeah he is kind of big, and shrinking him down would make him a toothpick, but if his fans are willing to put up with either, so be it, we'll play out the legendary battle between a giant space dragon and a dog/duck duo. Admit it, you want to see that one.
You might have noticed me on GameFAQs as Limelight788/astarisborn94 (mostly the former). With my first account, I was mostly active up until July, 2013 when I had a RL emergency to attend to.

But yeah, I am glad that I have moved on from GameFAQs. Absolutely despise the forum except for a few semi-respectable people and like you, I will never return to that forum ever again.
 

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But the thing is, how are we suppose to know that a want is realistic/unrealistic? This game has shown how little we actually know about what Sakurai thinks in regards to character selections. Only four characters were highly expected (Palutena, Little Mac, Shulk, Pac-Man); the rest were either characters that were generally not expected or the community were divided on their chances of getting in. Not a single person thought of Wii Fit Trainer as a possibility before E3 2013 but she's in the game.

And if we're trying to distinguish between "realistic" and "unrealistic" wants, Mega Man was the only character I wanted that I both predicted and ended up getting. The other two characters I did want; Bowser Jr. and Duck Hunt Dog, were not additions I was expecting (especially the latter). I got more of my "unexpected" wants than "expected" wants and I don't think I would be alone in that.
OBJECTION!!

I once saw a video from 2012 where someone brought up WFT as a joke! :T
 
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