This is kinda cool...

[Simna ibn Sind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iif_LeKr248
EDIT: Further testing shows that doing this with an active Yo-yo Glitch will equip a Thunder Jacket.

EDIT: Works in various locations on Brinstar Depths and one location on Onett.

EDIT: This work on the top of Peach's Castle going either left or right.

 

[ιota [UPSB]]

Awesome *-* is there still lag after the hurtbox is cancelled at that edge of the rock though? I.e. can you do this, then double jump out of it before landing on that girder thing, or do you have lag still in the air until you land on it and slide along?

Seems pretty finicky with regards to the angle and positioning you need, but hopefully I can get it down pretty consistently after practicing for a while. Do you think this is just a very particular oddity of that stage right there, or are there maybe other places with uneven terrain/edges where this kind of cancel can be done?

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

I dont know of any other places where this works.

Also, its not the hard to do once you know the positioning. And no, you cannot act until you are landed on the last platform...before that you are considered in specialfall and cannot act. I'm gonna check and see for fun if this weird slide has any YYG interactions....later

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

This equips Thunder Jackets.

 

[vrud]

Obviously, if there are any up-b developments to be made it would be you to make em lol I have found something cool aswell as soon as i figure out how to connect this damned dazzle into my comp and record things ill post it as well. Cool find I will practice and unleash this!

 

[Double Helix]

I wish I could find something actually NEW that was cool x.x

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

Already aware of this, Double Helix?

 

[Double Helix]

No. But I have "found" other things that were discovered already lol. Just saddening is all. Oh well, I just have to be better as Ness. If I play enough, I am BOUND to find something right? XD

 

[Couth]

No. But I have "found" other things that were discovered already lol. Just saddening is all. Oh well, I just have to be better as Ness. If I play enough, I am BOUND to find something right? XD

You are more than bound to. You are EARTHBOUND to! That's my time folks, I'll be here all week. Shirts in the back don't forget to tip your waitress!

 

[Double Helix]

Ugh, I thought about making that joke, but I didn't want to cause that kind of hurt to the world. At the same time, I had a guilty pleasure that someone else thought of that.

 

[Gatoray]

Does anyone else find it kind of depressing that the only new Ness technology being discovered recently are extremely situational techniques that are easy to punish, easy to dodge, and/or can only be executed on Pokemon Stadium or some other illegal stage? Where are my guaranteed combos or tech chases!? ;_;

 

[ιota [UPSB]]

If non-situational, useful tech existed that wasn't situational, it would have already been discovered most likely. Unless someone finds the super yyg (trollface.jpg) then this kind of stuff is about all we can hope for, imo xD

Ness' combo potential is pretty skimpy, so it's pretty much all fleshed out, unless some weird other glitch is found which is veryyy unlikely. Imo the few things that can be refined or that we could try to further mess with are effective use of Ness' DJC to ledge-cancel aerials and PK fires very consistently and often (without the telegraphed setups like WD back from opposite side of platform > LC PK-Fire), or more janky/hard-read YYG setups and combos...but idk if that's all super worth it compared to just getting better, playing more solid with Ness (similarly to how hbox plays with Ness) necessarily...

 

[Gatoray]

I'm planning on researching specific combos with frame data and percents for every top-tier character. I'll post my findings.

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

In most cases, if you are trying to get better then looking for new things isn't the right way to go about it. Just try to get better at doing the things we already know about and get better at knowing when and why you are using them.

More on this topic: I have good news and bad news! GOOD NEWS: I have replicated this effect from the video in TWO NEW LOCATIONS!

BAD NEWS: ...
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both locations are on Brinstar Depths.

 

[Gatoray]

BRINSTAR FOR LEGAL STAGE 2014

#FREEBRINSTAR

 

[thesage]

Does it equip a strong or weak thunder jacket?

 

[ιota [UPSB]]

There are different strengths of that jacket? Didn't know that .-. how do you get each one, and ensure you get the strong one, when you activate it normally (snap to ledge or floorblast)?

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

It equips a strong thunder jacket

EDIT: you generally get the weak one by floorblasting from too high up in the air.

 

[thesage]

Pkt2 has two hitboxes. Just check the frame data.

Was the d-smash yyg ever discovered? I remember somebody posting how to do it involving edgeguarding Marth. Does that actually work or am I just being crazy and misremembering something?

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

The dsmash yyg is a thing, but you have to both hit your opponent and get hit yourself to do it.

 

[thesage]

Yea I thought so. Is it only during a specific frame? I think you just have to hit somebody while you are charging the d-smash and then get hit out of the d-smash while still charging it.

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

Back on topic: This thing work on Onett when hitting yourself to the left along the roof on the right starting on the blue chimney.

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

Hey this also works from the top of Peach's Castle.