Theorymon: Just for Fun

[kirbyraeg]

Dialga @ Lum Berry
252 HP/140 SpAtk/116 SpDef
Modest

Stealth Rock
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Toxic

Forretress @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 SpDef/4 Atk
Careful

Spikes
Toxic Spikes
Rapid Spin
Payback

Giratina @ Leftovers
248 HP/248 Def/12 Spe
Impish

Roar
Rest
Sleep Talk
Gravity

Blissey @ Leftovers
252 Def/252 SpDef/4 Spe
Calm

Gravity
Wish
Protect
Seismic Toss

Groudon @ Life Orb
42 HP/252 Atk/216 Spe
Jolly

Rock Polish
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Dragon Claw

Ho-oh @ Life Orb
224 HP/252 Atk/32 Spe
Adamant

Sacred Fire
Substitute
Brave Bird
Roost

 

[Gates]

Your team loses to my ****.

And by **** I mean Arceus.

(real post later)

 

[UltiMario]

At a sheer glance I would guess you would have some RestTalk Kyogre problems.

 

[Gates]

Resttalk Kyogre isn't exactly common but it's true you do lose to him. Resttalk Dialga is more common and you also have trouble with it, though less so since you're packing Groudon. Theoretically you could just Roar both of them with Gira, but since he's your only phaser it may not be wise to have only one solution to it. And besides, Roar is -6 priority so they could just kill Gira before you get to phase them.

Mewtwo would be a good solution to both of these issues. A build with Taunt would be good for dealing with them after they go to sleep.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Speaking of arceus, it can run a similar set to giratina (replacing ho-oh)...steel(ghost?) plate arceus with gravity/roar/judgement(coverage)/recover. that's amazing just because it's arceus.

In all seriousness though those rest-talking threats can be phazed out while the rest of the opponent's team is chipped away at by toxic damage...i think? giratina can tank most hits then rest up himself and phaze them out. Dialga has to be handled differently, but groudon is an ideal counter as it can rock polish on the switch and outspeed a ton of stuff.

I have never uber battled before in my life so I don't really know threats. This is just to get a discussion going

 

[supermarth64]

Your team has problems with Specsogre, as it can OHKO/2HKO your whole team. I recommend replacing Blissey with a Latias to help out with Specs Kyogre.

If you do do that, then you might as well use Tina-O instead of Tina-A because Gravity sucks and Tina-O > Tina-A. Use the mixed attacker set except with Earthquake > HP Fire because Ho-Oh and Dialga handle Forry and your own Forry can always use Rapid Spin.

 

[Gates]

Giratina-O-Face is also problematic for this team. Unless it locks itself into Outrage, dealing with it is very hard. Groudon can't OHKO it with Dragon Claw but G-O can OHKO Groudon with Draco Meteor after the LO recoil and Stealth Rock. He's also immune to your entry hazards but you can't switch in your Gravity users since he can deal with all of them easily.

After messing around with this team for a while, I honestly have to say, it's just bad. Gravity IS a bad strategy. I've rarely used it to gain an advantage and if any of the gravity users or sweepers die the team doesn't have much to fall back on.

 

[kirbyraeg]

and i wanted gravity to be good...

truthfully this is just a team of 6 common uber pokemon that i thought could abuse gravity. xD

 

[kirbyraeg]

lol double post.