THEORY: Wii Remote is used in "special" Gamemode

[Weej]

Today's post was in the Gamemode section, no? The little blurb at the end about smashes with the wii remote leads me to believe that they will be in a separate gamemode, perhaps adventure-esque in nature.

Just a theory, But it certainly seems like this would be in the How-To Play section. Right?

Wiimote = New gamemode

 

[bloodvayne]

You fail.
"Hmm? How do you do smashes and dashes with just the Wii Remote?
If I get the chance to tell you, I will. "

The text in the new update section all points to them all being used for actual fighting, the quote above sticks out the most.

And did this deserve a new thread, when there are others?

 

[Weej]

The other Threads have been closed due to the fact that they either just repeat what the smashbros.com post said, or is a discussion of how the main gamemode ie. VS and single player will be handled, which I believe the GC, Wii and nunchuck, and CC.. This is an observation on the possibility of a NES style controlled gamemode.

 

[THK]

Why can't anyone believe that the Wiimote sideways can be used? d-pad for movement, a for a, b for b, 1 or 2 for jump, 1 or 2 for shield. Only thing that's lost is the grab short cut. Smashes and dashes? I say double taps.

If anything, what I CAN'T fully figure out is nunchuck + wiimote.

 

[Soodey]

why not, nunchuck + wii mote is easy, so long as you keep B as B

 

[Weej]

I understand what you guys are saying, but it really seems like this would go in the HOW TO PLAY section, I think it is in the GAMEMODES section for a reason.

 

[Erk Aduro]

Why can't anyone believe that the Wiimote sideways can be used? d-pad for movement, a for a, b for b, 1 or 2 for jump, 1 or 2 for shield. Only thing that's lost is the grab short cut. Smashes and dashes? I say double taps.

If anything, what I CAN'T fully figure out is nunchuck + wiimote.

You're saying I'm gonna have try to press the D-Pad and the A button to attack?! No offense, but I think this makes more sense:

D-Pad - Movement
A Button - Jump? Taunt?
B Button - Shield
1 Button - Normal Attacks
2 Button - Special Attacks

Double tap of the D-Pad for dashes. Tilts would involve pressing a direction and then 1 or 2. Pressing a direction and 1 at the same time would result in a smash attack. Jumps would be a double tap up. Depending on how long you hold down the D - Pad on the second tap you get a Short Hop or a Full Jump. A third press does your double jump.

Unfortunately, the A Button is in such an awkward place I can't see it being used for anything useful. Perhaps a jump button? But using it to jump would be difficult. We're just gonna have to leave this one to Sakurai's creativity.

As for the Wiimote + Nunchaku, that's easy.

Control Stick - Movement
A Button - Normal Attack
B Button - Special Attack
C Button - Grab/Jump/Shield
Z Button - Shield/Grab/Jump
D-Pad - Taunt
1 & 2 Buttons - Useless

See? Dashing, jumping, tilts and smash attacks would work just like on the GameCube Controller. It doesn't take much imagination. :\

 

[bboyspaz]

Why can't anyone believe that the Wiimote sideways can be used? d-pad for movement, a for a, b for b, 1 or 2 for jump, 1 or 2 for shield. Only thing that's lost is the grab short cut. Smashes and dashes? I say double taps.

If anything, what I CAN'T fully figure out is nunchuck + wiimote.

pressing b while the wiimote is on its side.......is the nastiest thing i've ever heard of in my life. i don't have any thoughts on how it could be done, but i'm guessing its going to be. it just seems like it wouldn't be as smooth as all of the other controls

 

[Weej]

This isn't the place for discussions about control schemes. That goes in the "Eternal Debate" thread.

This thread is about the possibilities of a new gamemode using only the wii remote held NES style.

 

[bloodvayne]

The other Threads have been closed due to the fact that they either just repeat what the smashbros.com post said, or is a discussion of how the main gamemode ie. VS and single player will be handled, which I believe the GC, Wii and nunchuck, and CC.. This is an observation on the possibility of a NES style controlled gamemode.

I never said this was a repeat thread, and I'm not to judge on whether it should be closed or not. I was merely saying that such an mis-judged theory shouldn't really have a thread dedicated to it, and instead should have just been brought up in an existing thread. I already said how it's mis-judged, so I'm not repeating myself.

But did you at least think that maybe it's in the Game Modes section because "Modes" is another word for "Options", and maybe it just represents that you have the option to choose which controller you use. Or maybe even that you have to pick a selection in-game what contoller you're going to use, so it can map the layout to the game before the match starts.

Oh, and @ bboyspaz, the B button really isn't that complicated to use when holding the wiimote sideways, just use the middle finger of your left hand. In Wario-Ware Smooth Moves, a boss level lets you play a small game of starfox, holding the wiimote sideways, tilting it in different directions to move. It lets you use either the A button or the B button to shoot, and I find the B button much more user friendly.

 

[Captain_Obvious]

So, how are you supposed to tilt with just the WiiMote?

- Captain R.D. Obvious

 

[Weej]

But did you at least think that maybe it's in the Game Modes section because "Modes" is another word for "Options".

I don't know about that one.

I think Gamemodes means Gamemodes. Like Single Player Classic, Adventure, All Star, Training, Home Run Contest,(which may be done with the Wiimote), BtT, and so on.
It isn't that crazy of a notion anyways. He is totally leading us on with the smashes and dashes part. Didn't somewhere sakurai say that the adventure mode is going to be greatly expanded? This could be it. Just a thought though.

I do reckon that monday's update will be more about control possibilities. This was totally released today to get plenty of discussion over the weekend, with a follow up soon to come. I can only hope for a follow up on monday.

 

[hellsoldierx15]

i wouldnt say it would be immediatly on monday, but maybe sometimes next week.

*on topic*

i think sakurai is going to have to get real crafty with his controls with just the wii-mote sideways. i hear talk of not being able to grab while playing with the wii-mote sideways. he's not going to leave out an element on one control and have it on all the other ones. thats why he's having 4 different control schemes. IMO, he has his work cut out for him. lets just wait and see what he comes up with.

 

[bloodvayne]

I think Gamemodes means Gamemodes. Like Single Player Classic, Adventure, All Star, Training, Home Run Contest,(which may be done with the Wiimote), BtT, and so on.

Which are all Options of Gameplay
Lets see, better word for option; "Alternative." If that doesn't help you get what I mean, I give up.
Using different contol variants fits with the definition of a game mode.

 

[Chi's Finest]

I think bloodvayne is just desperately trying to connect words to support his theory.

According to that logic, we can think of characters being people, and then think of that as meaning the people who made the game or something.

 

[Erk Aduro]

I think I get what Bloodvayne is trying to say. The actual controls for the game would go in How to Play, but just listing the controllers you can use doesn't really belong there. The different controllers are really several different ways to play the game, just as One Player, Muiltplayer, Allstar, Event Match etc. are all different ways to play the game. In that respect, it does make sense for the controllers to be in Game Modes. Also, don't forget this is all originally in Japanese, translated on the fly, so it might make more sense in Japanese than in English.

Anyway, regardless that isn't what the thread is about. It's about game modes based off of the different controllers, such as a game mode that specifically uses the Wiimote on its side or one that specifically requires the Classic Controller/GameCube Controller. I apologize for contributing to the discussion of possible control schemes, Weej would like that to be in the controller discussion thread. This thread is for game modes that require the use of a specific controller.

 

[McFox]

The update makes it PRETTY obvious that you can use all four control setups to play the actual multiplayer game, which is what the meat of the Smash Bros. series is.