The Unlockables

[Zwzchow]

So this thread is to discuss who would be unlockable. Including secret veterans and newcomers.

Feel free to put in your own newcomers you think will remain a secret!

So I shall start the ball rolling

Italics= unconfirmed characters

Veterans

Spoiler

Meta Knight
Wario
Falco
Wolf
Ganondorf
Ness
Captain Falcon
Jigglypuff
ROB
G&W
Marth
Lucario
Luigi
Sonic

Newcomers
Shulk
Pac-man

(I follow the Gematsu leak I don't have much requested newcomers other than Palutena)

Also you can discuss how they might be unlocked (Especially with SSE gone)

PS: Moderators please pardon me if there's a similar thread

 

[AncientArk]

This is actually something that irked me about Brawl.
Several characters should have been unlockable, not playable from the start, it annoyed me that both Metaknight and King Dedede were available straight away.

Spoiler: unlockable

Diddy Kong
King Dedede
Zero Suit Samus
Sheik
Ike
Charizard
Lucario
Luigi
Rosalina
Sonic
Pac-man
Megaman
Snake
Lucas
Gannondorf
Palutena
Toon Link
Greninja
Falco
Wolf
Mr Game and Watch

 

[Zzuxon]

Spoiler: unlockable

Nobody.
I truly do not think this game will have unlockable characters.

 

[Celestis]

Spoiler: unlockable

Nobody.
I truly do not think this game will have unlockable characters.

This. I believe this too.

 

[AncientArk]

I hope thats not the case, it'd be so anti-climatic to go to versus and have them all there on the first time playing.

 

[Celestis]

I think its that way cause Nintendo feels everything is just spoiled on the internet already, so why make the effort to make anyone a secret. Just like the whole not going to have cut scenes cause they will just end up on youtube.

 

[Luigi#1]

Unlockable:
Pac Man
Sonic
Megaman
Rosalina
Luigi [Unless Rosalina is a starter]
Meta Knight
Mr.G&W
Marth
Toon Link
Lucario
Ness
C.Falcon
Jigglypuff
Falco or Wolf [One's cut]
Ganondorf

 

[HeavyLobster]

I do think there'll still be unlockables, though I suspect that they'll be super-easy to unlock, like Mario Kart 8.
I'd expect unlockables to include Original 12 unlockables, including Luigi, most unannounced Brawl veterans as well as a couple of announced ones like Toon Link, 3rd party characters,(except maybe Megaman) and a random surprise character. (probably Chorus Men) Other newcomers may or may not be announced before release.

 

[Kevandre]

I think its that way cause Nintendo feels everything is just spoiled on the internet already, so why make the effort to make anyone a secret. Just like the whole not going to have cut scenes cause they will just end up on youtube.

But.. it really adds to the game..

In the past (on Melee) I've used a new memory card because I wanted to unlock everybody again.

Newer fighting games do that thing where everybody's unlocked immediately and it really sours the experience for me.

 

[Ridles the Space Pirate]

I think it would be cool to have to start with the original 8 and work your way up from there.

 

[Wanderer from Roseyard]

I'm hoping they're all available from the start! If the game prevails and is played for years, no one will remember what started out hidden for a week, anyway.

 

[Ryan.]

Hmm, I'd say Jigglypuff, Captain Falcon, Pac-Man, Ness, R.O.B., Mr. Game & Watch, and possibly several who were already revealed. I'm still confused on all that.

 

[Superyoshiom]

I have to ask you guys who thought this way, why would Toon Link not be an unlockable?

 

[Violenceman]

I think its that way cause Nintendo feels everything is just spoiled on the internet already, so why make the effort to make anyone a secret. Just like the whole not going to have cut scenes cause they will just end up on youtube.

I dunno about that. That's kind of an apples/oranges situation. With cut-scenes. there is no interactivity; you watch the clip and there you go. If you can watch all the scenes on Youtube, there is no real reason to work on unlocking them other than personal satisfaction (or just to say you did it).

With characters, even if you know who they are, you still can't play as them until you've earned them, which is their main function. You still get something out of working to unlock the characters. There is still reward to going through that effort, where as there isn't with a previously viewed cut scene (if you are the kind of player who doesn't get satisfaction from the actual act of earning it).

Also, Sakurai LOVES his unlockable collectibles, and not just in the Smash series (KI:Uprising was insane with the unlockables). It feels like he is really adamant that the player should be given lots of rewards for seeing everything the game has to offer. I know you can get that out of trophies, music, stages, etc, but it will still greatly surprise me if there are no characters you have to unlock.

 

[Celestis]

I really don't care ether way if they are unlockable or not. In the end they will all be unlocked and will remain unlocked as if nothing happened.

 

[Celestis]

I really don't care ether way if they are unlockable or not. In the end they will all be unlocked and will remain unlocked as if nothing happened.

Also, what earns a character to be unlockable and starter. It almost implies that the unlockables should be better, but the goal is balance. So what makes them special.

 

[ScottyWK]

I think its that way cause Nintendo feels everything is just spoiled on the internet already, so why make the effort to make anyone a secret. Just like the whole not going to have cut scenes cause they will just end up on youtube.

Mario Kart 8 had unlockables. The difference is, they announced who all those unlockables were going to be at the beginning.

So we'll still have unlockables, but the shock factor definitely won't be there.

 

[Canuckduck]

ALL third party characters will be unlockables, that we know for certainty.

 

[TimeSmash]

I think and hope there will be unlockables. Even though most of us here will probably be able to unlock everyone within a couple days or less, I truly enjoy unlocking characters and love seeing when I unlocked them too. Hopefully we'll have some more diversity and/or weirdness with unlocking, like how you could get Luigi in Adventure mode in Melee, but also the standard "play x many matches" should be in place too

 

[HammerHappy]

This is actually something that irked me about Brawl.
Several characters should have been unlockable, not playable from the start, it annoyed me that both Metaknight and King Dedede were available straight away.

Lets not kid ourselves, the strong majority of the entire roster was easily unlockable (fairly anticlimactically) by simply running through Sub-space. Something I understand a lot of people did day 1 with the game.
Since Brawl was obviously intended as a party game, they honestly shouldn't have had any character locks at all. Just pop it into a Wii and play.

Not sure who they're going to choose to lock, but I feel that they should at least be some challenge in unlocking a select few. If not, then I'd rather just have all the content available from the start.

Though I'm going to guess that a repetition of Brawl is most likely.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Right way should be:

Starters: Mario, Luigi, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Yoshi, Link, Samus, Fox, Captain Falcon, Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Ness
Unlockable: everyone else

 

[Celestis]

I actually never played the sub space. All characters were unlocked just playing vs.

 

[Zwzchow]

I actually never played the sub space. All characters were unlocked just playing vs.

It was literally the easiest way to get all characters lol

 

[Shin F.]

I hope there are unlockables. Seeing that "Challenger Approaching" screen is too hype for me to give up.

I think the traditional unlockables will still need to be unlocked. Luigi, Ness, etc. Plus I expect all 3rd party characters will be unlockable.

 

[Sølid]

Starters: Everyone shown on the website prior to Japan release.
Unlocks: Third Parties and those shown after release.

Melee and Brawl had the same set up. And to confused about Toon Link, Luigi, Lucario, and Marth being shown, if this new game has a roster size around 50, making past unlocks into starters to make room for newer unlocks makes sense (this happened in Melee with Ness and Cap). Even more solid evidence is the fact Marth appears on the 3DS cover art. Also, I believe somewhere during the Treehouse someone mentioned unlocks? Did that happen? Either way, I'm 100% secret unlocks will return.

 

[Canuckduck]

Starters: Everyone shown on the website prior to Japan release.
Unlocks: Third Parties and those shown after release.

Melee and Brawl had the same set up. And to confused about Toon Link, Luigi, Lucario, and Marth being shown, if this new game has a roster size around 50, making past unlocks into starters to make room for newer unlocks makes sense (this happened in Melee with Ness and Cap). Even more solid evidence is the fact Marth appears on the 3DS cover art. Also, I believe somewhere during the Treehouse someone mentioned unlocks? Did that happen? Either way, I'm 100% secret unlocks will return.

I recall Sakurai stating during the development of Brawl that he prefers it if third party characters (Sonic, Pac-Man, Megaman) were unlockables.

 

[Radical Bones]

I love unlockables. Unlocking characters is my favourite thing to do ever. The less starters the better.

I don't think the characters on the web are the starters. I think he's using some to show how good the game looks and to tie into promotions. For example, Luigi has been a good example to showcase characters expressions.

 

[BADGRAPHICS]

The E3 demos make me think the unlockables will be different on each platform. The main reason for this is Link/Toon Link being available on each version. This could be why we saw Toon Link so early.

 

[Ryuutakeshi]

I imagine that, with sheik and Zamus seperated, there will be conditions that need to be met with Zelda and Samus to unlock them.

Megman, sonic, and Pacman will also need to be unlocked.

 

[Zwzchow]

They might do it differently this time with SSE removed too

What if there's a character that's unlocked only by transferring data from each version (like Pokemon)
Although that might be a silly thing to do considering they are released like 2 months apart ._.

I imagine that, with sheik and Zamus seperated, there will be conditions that need to be met with Zelda and Samus to unlock them.

Megaman, sonic, and Pacman will also need to be unlocked.

Hm just like how Ganondorf is unlocked in Brawl I guess
Also it's good to note that most franchises are represented by at least one character in the starting roster (other than ROB G&W and third parties)

 

[Tikivoy]

I agree with what was said about unlocking characters; Its really fun to see the challenger approaching screen and achieving to unlock everyone. Not to mention, no extremely easy way to unlock everybody (SSE) reminds of the days where friends came over to play as Mewtwo. Because they were really big fans of Mewtwo. Yet they couldn't pull 20 hours of gameplay to unlock Mewtwo.
Prediction:

Spoiler

Luigi
Captain Falcon
Jigglypuff
Ness
Toon Link
Ganondorf
Falco
Wolf
Game & Watch
ROB
Mega Man
Sonic
Pac-Man
2-4 unlockable newcomers never mentioned until the game is out.(I'm not predicting them despite thinking one is Isaac. Hmph.)

I doubt any of the characters confirmed for Amiibos are unlockable. Sakurai probably revealed some characters like Toon Link and Luigi just for promotion, regardless of their locked status.

 

[Ryuutakeshi]

Warning: Challenger Approaching is so iconic to the series. They aren't getting rid of it.

 

[Zwzchow]

Warning: Challenger Approaching is so iconic to the series. They aren't getting rid of it.

I hope they can bring in the one that appeared in Mega Man's trailer somehow

 

[PixelPasta]

I feel like the following should be unlockables.
Luigi
Sheik
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Zero Suit Samus
Meta Knight (he really should have been unlockable in Brawl)
Jigglypuff
Ike
Falco
Wolf
Mr. Game & Watch
R.O.B
Sonic

And as for newcomers:
King K. Rool
Ghirahim
Ridley
Shulk
Takamaru
Mega Man
Pac-man

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Well unlockables are back no question about about as for who i got some followings

Also for a tip everybody threw the series of smash bros cases, on both cases i believe they are starters. (Sonic and snake were on the back of the smash bros case but that was showing they are playable.)



Here is veterans

Starters

Spoiler

(Only if shown before release)
(Same as above.)

Unlockables

Spoiler

(He was not on either case maybe marth and ike statues switch places)
(If hes coming back ofcoarse)

Now for newcomers

Starters i believe

Spoiler

(Im not positive for her she could have to be unlocked.)

Unlockables

Spoiler

Chrom: (now for him i really doubt hes a starter due to a third rep its either him or ike or both.)

Chorus men: (im really leaning toward unlockable because a unquie character like this and kind of a unquie rep.)

Shulk: (could be a starter but i really psotivie he has to be unlocked.)

King k rool: (if confirmed) (no brianer if gangplank galleon is a stage and is not a hazard has to be unlockable.)

Ridley: (if confirmed.) (he was revealed in aprils direct but no role was given too him yet, if a potd does not pop up of him in it of and sakurai saying hes a hazard and not playable before the release, and is not revealed august, easy to conclude hes playable and has to be unlcoked.)
(well even if shown in august as playable he still has a high chance of having to be unlocked.)

As for if theres a character 51 its either Or some random newcomer that could go either way of the status of unlockable or starter.

 

[ShizChiz]

I could see a starting roster of 30 happening. Aside from third parties and Luigi, I think everyone confirmed so far could be starting, with & filling out the 30. That means there would 17-20 unlockables. I'm not including Mii Fighter in either of those numbers b.c I think they may replace the random button or work some other way.

Spoiler

Unlockables:



or

The next 4-7 could be: Chrom, Shulk, Chorus Men, Isaac(or another new solo series rep), Ridley, King K Rool/Dixie Kong, Hades/Medusa

 

[BluePikmin11]

I think these guys will be unlockable.
Wolf and Mewtwo in addition if they are playable.

 

[dezeray112]

Its a bit difficult to say which characters will be unlockable at this time. But I think it is likely that the guest characters will be unlockable.

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

Only Mario for starter and everyone else secret of DLC. Lets go Killer Instinct mode all over this game!

 

[Xigger]

I think its that way cause Nintendo feels everything is just spoiled on the internet already, so why make the effort to make anyone a secret. Just like the whole not going to have cut scenes cause they will just end up on youtube.

The REAL reason behind that, is cutscenes can't be THE motivator or reward for playing through the story mode. Perhaps why we see CGI trailers for introducing newcomers, rather than as a part of the game.

As for unlockable characters... What characters SHOULD be unlockable? Forget about tradition or how it's usually been: what characters shouldn't be available in the beginning and should be unlocked the more you play the game?

Co-stars? Newcomers? Veterans? Whichever characters finish development last?