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The Underworld speculation ( with a tiny wink at the Icies )

Fawriel

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Today's update was a Kid Icarus song, the Underworld Theme.
First time I listened, it seemed really weird. It just doesn't seem to fit into Skyworld, does it? One would expect some sweet, Fountain-of-Dream-esque music for that stage...

So my quick conclusion is that there will be an Underworld stage. I know that the title of the song doesn't say much about what it'll be used for ( see the "Menu" theme ) but the Underworld is just too memorable to pass up.

Now, I never played Kid Icarus, but I found a video of the first stage on Youtube.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KSfS9w9_0kg

Besides the music, you'll notice that the design of the stage is completely vertical as the task is to escape the Underworld. Makes sense.

So, maybe this will be yet another vertically scrolling stage! It would only make sense here, far more than it did for Rumble Falls.

Also, notice how in the game, Pit can cross the sides of the stage to pop out again on the other side... so apparently, the Underworld consists of towers, or maybe it's a strange dimension that simply is only that wide.


I wonder how this stage could work. Maybe it could be the first level to have a differently shaped 2-dimensional plane, in the shape of a ring. Or maybe you simply have the ability to walk out on one side and pop back in on the other. Maybe that's also possible for other walk-off stages to make them less throw-inviting, although that'd put vertical KOers at a great advantage. Or maybe it simply scrolls up.

What do you think? Good idea? Stupid idea? Ideas for how it could work?

Oh, also: If this is another scrolling stage, it could go either way for the Icies. But if there are two other vertically scrolling stages, I think it could strengthen the argument that they didn't just axe them and give the stage concept to a DK stage. With a few tweaks, it's a concept that can be used many times...
Not like Rumble Falls did anything to really hurt the Icies' chances, but still!
 

Empy

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I really like the idea, but to be honest, I think the music will be for the adventure mode. We know all characters will be a part of it and we've seen some pictures of Pit at the post about it. This time the adventure mode will be a real story mode and well, nearly every game with a story and multiplayer mode has different music (and stages) for both. So I think there might be some sort of Underworld stage, but it's probably part of the adventure mode and I'm not sure if it'll be available for multiplayer as well.
 

LinkTer

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well i think every kid icarus level was like that where it scrolls up so dont think so
 

gnosis

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I don't think the side scroll comments on anything about the Underworld's physics or structure; that mechanic was relatively common in old levels on old games.
 

DJ_Falcon

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I think it could fit in Skyworld. It has a light sound and not an Underworld-y tone to it. Not that there is no possibility of an Underworld stage considering it's the first stage.
 

FierceDeityWolf

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I love the idea, but it might just be like in Melee, where the Ice Climbers had only one stage.

The theme song doesn't seem to fit in, I agree, but it fits in more than it would in an Underworld stage. I'm predicting that if that stage appears, the song will be dark, and gloomy, and dramatic. But mostly awesome.
 

XenoGuard

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Wow, first off the song could easily fit into sky world, Becouse sky world is like Castle siege, a Themed stage, as in it never accually appeared in the games, but it's based off it. And who suggested that becouse there MIGHT be a new stage, Kid Icarus might get another playable character. Lets keep this about facts ok?
 

Fawriel

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Wow, first off the song could easily fit into sky world, Becouse sky world is like Castle siege, a Themed stage, as in it never accually appeared in the games, but it's based off it.
You know, that is actually a bloody good point. I still don't think it fits, but... rawr.
Guess the base of my speculation is shrinking steadily.
And who suggested that becouse there MIGHT be a new stage, Kid Icarus might get another playable character. Lets keep this about facts ok?
*points at Ben* o_o;
the grim lizard said:
>_> Stages say nothing about the characters that will be in.
*shrugs* I was just saying. I don't get why many people jumped at the conclusion that the Icies will be out because of that DK stage, but it happened. In the end, might as well not have mentioned it, though, since it's a pretty weak point I made there. I blame it on tiredness.
 

psyniac_123

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I say YES to Underworld.
I say YES to scrolling.
I say YES to original "dynamics", as it were.

I hated the IC stage from Melee, like most people, and I even went as far as to hate Rainbow Cruise. But I'd love Underworld scrolling up at a constant speed. Better yet, if it will work, make it EXACTLY the same as the Underworld world (stages 1-1, 1-2 and 1-3, but looped (and obviously without the enemies, doors and the ceiling at the end of each stage).
Also, have it so you can cross from left to right, but will die if you fall or are smashed up. It would definately be interesting!
 

psyniac_123

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Wow, first off the song could easily fit into sky world, Becouse sky world is like Castle siege, a Themed stage, as in it never accually appeared in the games, but it's based off it. And who suggested that becouse there MIGHT be a new stage, Kid Icarus might get another playable character. Lets keep this about facts ok?
Sorry for the double post but are you suggesting Skyworld never appeared in KI? I know Castle Siege is new for Brawl, but Skyworld is definately not, in case you didn't know. As I recall it was Stage 3 in both Kid Icarus and KI: Of Myths and Monsters.
 
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