The Subspace Emissary - The End of Game and Watch?

[bivunit94]

***PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING***
The last thing I want is a crazed mob of G&W fans flaming me without reading the post first. Anyway, onto my point.

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The Subspace Emissary
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As we all know, the Subspace Emissary is the new adventure mode. So far, it seems very cinematic, and extremely epic. There are even cutscenes and boss battles! In short, it's awesome. It also seems like even comedic characters are getting a more serious feel to them, like Petey Pirahna.

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Mr. Game & Watch
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Ahh, the awesome, WTF character on Melee's roster. I am a huge fan of his inclusion in Melee, and I hope he will return in Brawl. It's really cool to have a 2-D character amongst the 3-D fighters. Plus, he totally deserves it.

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The Subspace Emissary & Mr. Game and Watch
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Now, here's my point. The Subspace Emissary, as we said, is:

- Epic
- Cinematic
- Serious

Game & Watch, on the other hand, is none of those. Well, it was sort of epic when he first appeared, but overall he's just a simple, even slightly comedic character. Plus, he's 2-D.

How would he fit into the epic adventure that is the Subspace Emissary?

I honestly don't know. For Game and Watch fans like myself, this...is not good. A number of things could come out of this.

1. Game and Watch will not appear in SSBB.

2. Game and Watch will not appear in the Subspace Emissary.

or 3. Nintendo will figure it out.

But there's problems with all of these solutions.

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Game and Watch is not in SSBB
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Well, I for one, would be outraged. Game and Watch is so original that I can't imagine someone to replace him. Aside from angry fans, there's no real flaws with this solution, and that is why I'm worried...

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Game and Watch is not in SE
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Unlikely. Why would they exclude just one character? It's not fair, and it's stupid. But, I still prefer this over him not appearing in the game at all. This solution is still highly unlikely though. Still worried here...

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Nintendo Figures it Out
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Well, yeah. They're Nintendo. But still, can you imagine "OMGz0RS SUPER FLAT Z0N3 ATTACKED BY PR1MIDZZZ!!!!one1!!!" I sure can't. And I also can't imagine Game and Watch in an epic, cinematic cutscene. Of course, Nintendo could probably somehow pull it off, but it WOULD seem weird. I hope this solution happens, but I'm not done worrying.


This is what I thought about this. Do you think Game and Watch will ruin the serious mood of the Adventure Mode? Is this the end for our 2-D friend?

Discuss!

Also, if this has been brought up before, feel free to lock this.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

That's a really horrible reason why Game and Watch will not be in Brawl

 

[smashbot226]

Well, if they could pull off PKMN Trainer, Snake, and make Petey Pihrana look awesome...

They'll figure it out.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

How will Pokemon Trainer keep up with his Pokemon in side-scrolling sections?

Pokemon Trainer is out. No other solution.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Why would G&W look bad in The Subspace Emissary? Whats 2-D got to do with anything?

 

[bivunit94]

Well, if they could pull off PKMN Trainer, Snake, and make Petey Pihrana look awesome...

They'll figure it out.

trainer and snake fitting into an epic story doesnt seem as odd as a 2-D little shadow man who doesnt even walk normally. get my point now?

 

[axemangx]

G&W= Father of Video Games.


Hell no he aint leavin.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

G&W= Father of Video Games.


Hell no he aint leavin.

HAND-HELD videogames, but that is important nonetheless.

 

[Florida]

As I said before, I doubt that certain unlockable characters will take place in the Subspace Emissary. And it's likely that if Game and Watch returns, he'll remain as an unlockable character. If he's a starting character, I'm pretty sure Nintendo will work it out. Game and Watch is just too... too, manly...! to be exluded from Brawl.

Yah hard meh, MANLEH!

 

[Pluvia's other account]

I still don't understand why you think G&W wouldn't be included in SE.

 

[Artc]

G&W= Father of Video Games.


Hell no he aint leavin.

Actually Mr.Pong Paddle is the father of video games.

 

[Oasis_S]

Game & Watch, along with other less obvious unlockable characters, probably just won't appear in Subspace Emissary.

 

[Devastlian]

I'm sure Nintendo could integrate him somehow into SE. They could have him as a computer program fighting viruses or some random stuff like that...

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

I can totally picture him beeping his way through cut-scenes. Bring him on.

 

[MAtgSy]

Actually Mr.Pong Paddle is the father of video games.

First was Space War in the 60s, that machine was the size of a house!
Then came the Oddessy in the early 70s, the 1st home console.
& then came Pong.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Game & Watch, along with other less obvious unlockable characters, probably just won't appear in Subspace Emissary.

QFT. I have that very same impression...

I can totally picture him beeping his way through cut-scenes. Bring him on.

...although it would be absolutely hilarious to see that frickin' cardboard cut-out duke it out with somebody in a epic cutscene. For a finishing blow, I can so see Game and Watch ringing the bell at somebody and then whacking them to hell with the Level 9 Judgment Hammer.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Fawriel]

What the Criminal said.
This game is no more serious than the other two. I mean, look at the big picture.

Wario.

Banana Peel.

Curry.

Petey Piranha. And so on.


And if unlockables won't be excluded from SE, personally, I can well imagine G&W being the Pit of the second dimension.

 

[JonnyJinx]

Assuming he's an unlockable character, I don't think he'll appear in the Adventure Mode at all. There were very few secret characters featuring in SSBM's Adventure Mode after all.

 

[GreenKirby]

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The Subspace Emissary & Mr. Game and Watch
-----------------

Now, here's my point. The Subspace Emissary, as we said, is:

- Epic
- Cinematic
- Serious

Game & Watch, on the other hand, is none of those. Well, it was sort of epic when he first appeared, but overall he's just a simple, even slightly comedic character.

Wario says Hi

 

[LuLLo]

There are more characters who are a bit comedic, like Wario and Yoshi, I can't see a reason why they shouldn't include G&W...
And if you look at the fact that he's 2-D... yeah that could be a problem, but the only 2 shots they can't make of G&W are exactly from the back and exactly from the front...so no problems there I guess..

 

[bivunit94]

All I'm saying is that it would be very odd in cutscenes. I'm not saying "Oh..he's 2-D! HE MUST LEAVE!" That's just a stupid statement. But since he's on the chopping block anyway, this could be a good excuse for Nintendo to get rid of him. I agree that it's more likely than not that he just won't appear in the SE, though. And @ hemightbethegiant: The Pokemon Trainer will obviously have some sort of solution for scrolling stages, like a floating platform, or maybe he'll just run and jump along with the stage. I see what you were saying, but it's kinda different.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

All I'm saying is that it would be very odd in cutscenes. I'm not saying "Oh..he's 2-D! HE MUST LEAVE!" That's just a stupid statement. But since he's on the chopping block anyway, this could be a good excuse for Nintendo to get rid of him. I agree that it's more likely than not that he just won't appear in the SE, though.

How is he on Sakurai's chopping block?

And @ hemightbethegiant: The Pokemon Trainer will obviously have some sort of solution for scrolling stages, like a floating platform, or maybe he'll just run and jump along with the stage. I see what you were saying, but it's kinda different.

And so if G&W is in, he will obviously have some way to adapt.

 

[automirage04]

I hope he gets taken out completely. I hate GW. I hate him a lot.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

I hope he gets taken out completely. I hate GW. I hate him a lot.

This post:

FAILS!!

 

[bivunit94]

How is he on Sakurai's chopping block?

Many people believe he has a 50-50 chance. Who knows what Sakurai's thinkin, but theres no guarantee he's returning.

 

[susu_atari]

It looks to me like the Subspace Emissary is a single-storyline situation, in which you control different characters at different times. If this was the case, then it may be possible that only the starting characters are playable in the Subspace Emissary, and the other characters are just in little bits. That would solve your problem.

Also, I doubt the 3rd party characters will be in the Subspace Emissary at all.

 

[WarxePB]

I can imagine a good scenario for G&W (assuming they do character storylines):

To execute his plan, the Ancient Minister needs robotic operators for his Subspace Bombs: since the Bombs often destroy the operators, it's too risky to send anything but expendable minions who don't have the knowledge to operate the bombs. After searching the Smash universe, AM comes across R(obotic) O(perating) B(uddy), a denizen of the Retro World; ROB fits the bill perfectly, so he orders the Army to abduct it and begin mass-producing it. Of course, the leaders of the Retro World (including Mr. G&W and any other playable retro characters; this would also be a good spot for cameos that don't quite make it to PC or AT status) want revenge, so they send G&W (and any other PCs) to rescue ROB and help defeat the Subspace Army.

 

[shadenexus18]

***PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING***
The last thing I want is a crazed mob of G&W fans flaming me without reading the post first. Anyway, onto my point.

-----------------
The Subspace Emissary
-----------------

As we all know, the Subspace Emissary is the new adventure mode. So far, it seems very cinematic, and extremely epic. There are even cutscenes and boss battles! In short, it's awesome. It also seems like even comedic characters are getting a more serious feel to them, like Petey Pirahna.

-----------------
Mr. Game & Watch
-----------------

Ahh, the awesome, WTF character on Melee's roster. I am a huge fan of his inclusion in Melee, and I hope he will return in Brawl. It's really cool to have a 2-D character amongst the 3-D fighters. Plus, he totally deserves it.

-----------------
The Subspace Emissary & Mr. Game and Watch
-----------------

Now, here's my point. The Subspace Emissary, as we said, is:

- Epic
- Cinematic
- Serious

Game & Watch, on the other hand, is none of those. Well, it was sort of epic when he first appeared, but overall he's just a simple, even slightly comedic character. Plus, he's 2-D.

How would he fit into the epic adventure that is the Subspace Emissary?

I honestly don't know. For Game and Watch fans like myself, this...is not good. A number of things could come out of this.

1. Game and Watch will not appear in SSBB.

2. Game and Watch will not appear in the Subspace Emissary.

or 3. Nintendo will figure it out.

But there's problems with all of these solutions.

-----------------
Game and Watch is not in SSBB
-----------------

Well, I for one, would be outraged. Game and Watch is so original that I can't imagine someone to replace him. Aside from angry fans, there's no real flaws with this solution, and that is why I'm worried...

-----------------
Game and Watch is not in SE
-----------------

Unlikely. Why would they exclude just one character? It's not fair, and it's stupid. But, I still prefer this over him not appearing in the game at all. This solution is still highly unlikely though. Still worried here...

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Nintendo Figures it Out
-----------------

Well, yeah. They're Nintendo. But still, can you imagine "OMGz0RS SUPER FLAT Z0N3 ATTACKED BY PR1MIDZZZ!!!!one1!!!" I sure can't. And I also can't imagine Game and Watch in an epic, cinematic cutscene. Of course, Nintendo could probably somehow pull it off, but it WOULD seem weird. I hope this solution happens, but I'm not done worrying.


This is what I thought about this. Do you think Game and Watch will ruin the serious mood of the Adventure Mode? Is this the end for our 2-D friend?

Discuss!

Also, if this has been brought up before, feel free to lock this.

This is a really really really farfetched theory on why Game & Watch will not make it into Brawl. I don't think he's going anywhere bro. You can rest easy.

 

[LaniusShrike]

I see why you'd worry, but... really now. The epicness is largely because they are making non-epic characters be thrust into this epic world that doesn't really fit their origins at all. Game and watch not fitting is all part of that which makes it epic.

 

[CanadianIdiot]

Nintendo cna find out a way. If you're so worried about it, then try and picture it. I can easily see G&W fighting Petey Pirahna. Easily.

 

[bivunit94]

I can imagine a good scenario for G&W (assuming they do character storylines):

To execute his plan, the Ancient Minister needs robotic operators for his Subspace Bombs: since the Bombs often destroy the operators, it's too risky to send anything but expendable minions who don't have the knowledge to operate the bombs. After searching the Smash universe, AM comes across R(obotic) O(perating) B(uddy), a denizen of the Retro World; ROB fits the bill perfectly, so he orders the Army to abduct it and begin mass-producing it. Of course, the leaders of the Retro World (including Mr. G&W and any other playable retro characters; this would also be a good spot for cameos that don't quite make it to PC or AT status) want revenge, so they send G&W (and any other PCs) to rescue ROB and help defeat the Subspace Army.

I really like this concept, actually. The only thing that I'm concerned with is the cutscenes. 2-D character + 3-D cutscenes? Idk. But your ideas are awesome, dude.

This is a really really really farfetched theory on why Game & Watch will not make it into Brawl. I don't think he's going anywhere bro. You can rest easy.

I'm not saying he WON'T make it into Brawl. But this, along with the fact that not everyone is supporting him 100%...means I can't rest quite easy enough yet.

I see why you'd worry, but... really now. The epicness is largely because they are making non-epic characters be thrust into this epic world that doesn't really fit their origins at all. Game and watch not fitting is all part of that which makes it epic.

Finally, someone sees why I worry. I see what you're saying about non-epic characters and such. Interesting point.

Nintendo cna find out a way. If you're so worried about it, then try and picture it. I can easily see G&W fighting Petey Pirahna. Easily.

G&W vs. Petey Pirahna...Hmm...how 'bout G&W vs. KRAID!?!?! Muhahaha! Haha. But yeah, I'm not saying I wouldn't love it, but the general public (who they're aiming the Wii towards) would be like "WTF? He's 2-D!" But I see what you're sayin.

 

[Darkurai]

Game and Watch is the very soul of handheld games. That alone is his history.

 

[RBinator]

*First Post*

The only way I know to explain how I'm feeling is through satire...

Random Developer: So with all creativity for characters like Pokémon Trainer among other things, we can't figure how to put a 2D character in the story.

RD #2: We also can't figure out how to make him epic next to a greedy man who bites people and farts, next to a pink puffball, a giant plant wearing a speedo, a couple of princesses who can beat the crap out of their saviors and villains who capture them, and more.

RD #3: Also, the story means everything in this primarily multiplayer game, so if a character for whatever reason couldn't fit within the story, they have no place in this game period, not even in multiplayer.

And yes, I did read the whole post.

 

[Darkurai]

The only way I know to explain how I'm feeling is through satire...

Random Developer: So with all creative for characters like Pokémon Trainer among other things, we can't figure how to put a 2D character in the story.

RD #2: We also can't figure out how to make him epic next to a greedy man who bites people and farts, next to a pink puffball, a giant plant wearing a speedo, a couple of princesses who can beat the crap out of their saviors and villains who capture them, and more.

RD #3: Also, the story means everything in this primarily multiplayer game, so if a character for whatever reason couldn't fit within the story, they have no place in this game period, not even in multiplayer.

And yes, I did read the whole post.

I love you.