The strongest Fsmash

[litlwing]

well snake has ONE of the strongest fsmashes

more importantly this move is slow, but has deceptive range (not as much as D3 or Ike)
but i was curious, with such a strong move how can one not incorporate this move in their arsenal.

How do snake mains use the Fsmash effectively? Is it a scare tactic? do you use some sort of set up? Whats your opinion?



EDIT: not quiet as strong as ddd but its still up there.... its complicated

 

[Cecilanius]

Awesome! You can look at this to see some ways you can use Fsmash. http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=172217

I usually use it on accident or if I have several explosives around me to protect me from getting punished for using Fsmash.

 

[Douglas Jay Falcon]

No.DDD's is stronger but only by a little bit damagewise.

As for when to use it I don't play Snake much but I would guess having a mine in front of you then use his Up smash and then Fsmash the other side.They might dodge roll into it

 

[litlwing]

yeah i know ddd is stronger damage wise but in terms of knock back snake's dominates and kills at even lower % but ddd is right behind him and then ike

 

[napZzz]

DDD's kills at lower %'s than snakes fully charged.

 

[litlwing]

yeah i just did more tests and i see this lol

what i did was use a flat custom stage as long as possible and at 0% hit with the Fsmashes, and at 0% snakes goes further then d3s but as the damage builds d3s goes further, its confusing, i encourage people to try it, i was just trying to get the most controlled settings ya know.

lol false alarm , snakes still like top 4 tho at least.

 

[Sergetrigger]

This is another confirmation that Snake is actually Captain Falcon in disguise... His FALCAN PAWNCH! was replaced with the RPG fsmash. Both slow, both powerful. When you see Snake charging up the fsmash, he's actually just concentrating the power of the FALCAN PAWNCH into the rpg launcher so it can cause more damage.

 

[Seriaxe]

This is another confirmation that Snake is actually Captain Falcon in disguise... His FALCAN PAWNCH! was replaced with the RPG fsmash. Both slow, both powerful. When you see Snake charging up the fsmash, he's actually just concentrating the power of the FALCAN PAWNCH into the rpg launcher so it can cause more damage.

Huh wtf does captain falcon have to do with Snake, Snake come from MGS, Captain Falcon come from F-zero, One is a racing game other a action game they have no connection with each other, though it was funny

 

[Seriaxe]

Snake is the third strongest forward smash in the game, if fully charge, not sure why it stronger then ike and King Dedede when not charge

 

[Samus Syndrome]

One of the only times I use the f-smash is when I have just respawned and I walk up to my opponent and do an f-smash the opposite direction they are and a lot of the time they just roll behind you and don't know what hit them, pretty much the best mindgame ever...Just try it you'd be surprised how often it works.

 

[LoyalSoldier]

Usually anything with a lag that bad is generally a punishing move

 

[Dastrn]

I use it when my opponent is rolling up from the ledge. I face the ledge, and jam the c stick backwards as they roll. At any percentage above 65-70, it's usually a kill.

 

[shrodekill]

i use it when they do stupid things, or if i totally trick them w/ explosives or downthrow. also fun to throw in as an edgeguard tool every once in awhile with its totally huge range.

 

[waks]

I didnt read the first couple of posts, so sorry if this has been mentioned.

Most of the time fsmash is used is when anticipating a roll. Like, dthrow, then opponent rolls to your back + you start fsmashing to your back.

 

[IronSquirrel891]

i use it when im fed up with someone else's ****.
just an "I am friggin done with you" move.
but yeah, of course i use it for spacing when i would rather spam nades/missles.

 

[wazgood]

Huh wtf does captain falcon have to do with Snake, Snake come from MGS, Captain Falcon come from F-zero, One is a racing game other a action game they have no connection with each other, though it was funny

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=165534

 

[Crizthakidd]

grab,grab, fsmash kills

 

[Gindler]

I find the Fsmash useless in singles. I've never been hit by it in singles. Doubles on the other hand, it sucks when you're teammate is off the edge and you get grabbed for an easy snake Fsmash, or with enough teamwork knock someone into the Fsmash, if yall perfect that snake will be even more annoying to fight in doubles.

 

[Seriaxe]

I never pull it out on my friends, it so much lag and it so **** hard to hit. Why cant they change it to a fast smash attack.

 

[eMORAY21]

I never use it, it just omes out fr too slow . Maybe is the other play is high % and is climbing off the edge. But even then a ftilt would be better.

 

[Sergetrigger]

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=165534

Thank you! I've been trying to find that thread for a while.