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The RNC proves its relevance

GreenKirby

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By basically crank calling the DNC.

Republicans played a trick on Democrats today by redirecting angry telephone calls coming into their switchboard to the Democratic National Committee, CNN reports.

"The DNC released a Web video early in the morning accusing the GOP of inciting mob activity at town hall meetings. At the end of the video, the DNC instructs people to call the Republican National Committee to express outrage. Callers who dial the RNC's main number to voice their concern about the DNC's charges are told to press 1, which sends them to the DNC's main switchboard."

Update: The Washington Independent reports RNC Chairman Michael Steele took full credit for the phone prank.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/08/05/rnc_routes_angry_phone_calls_to_dnc.html

Let's look the facts:

Teabag parties to protest government spending while ironically wasting money on tea bags (and then wasting the tea bags)

Birthers

And the fact that the Republicans promoted this idea from the mafia and by shipping protestors to disrupt town hall meetings about healthcare

Oh well
Hello one-party rule.
 

The Immortal Sir NZ

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Looks like the liberal media finally noticed us.
The Democrats prove their death grip on the media, only paying attention to us when we prank them, and not when we try to voice opinions. :ohwell:
 

1048576

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Hahahaha. There are 3 major TV news outlets. Fox is way more conservative than MSNBC is liberal. I don't think you could find one good story about a liberal or one bad story about a conservative if you watched that station for an entire day. As for CNN; ever hear of Lou Dobbs? He's a tea-sipping racist's wet dream.

You guys have been throwing that card around for decades. Finally the independents realize you're shoving crap back up their ***.

Also, has it ever occured to you that Republicans are genuinely ********? As if the invisible man in the sky really gives a hoot when two pee-pees touch.

The economic argument is one I'll hear. Nobody should really be a Republican. There should be Libertarians and Democrats.
 

The Immortal Sir NZ

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Hahahaha. There are 3 major TV news outlets. Fox is way more conservative than MSNBC is liberal. I don't think you could find one good story about a liberal or one bad story about a conservative if you watched that station for an entire day. As for CNN; ever hear of Lou Dobbs? He's a tea-sipping racist's wet dream.

You guys have been throwing that card around for decades. Finally the independents realize you're shoving crap back up their ***.

Also, has it ever occured to you that Republicans are genuinely ********? As if the invisible man in the sky really gives a hoot when two pee-pees touch.

The economic argument is one I'll hear. Nobody should really be a Republican. There should be Libertarians and Democrats.
Hahahahahaha. MSNBC is way liberal that Fox is conservative.
and are you trying to call republicans tea-sipping racists? I could easily call names too.
but that doesn't get anything done now does it?

RNC said:
On June 24th, ABC News and anchor Charles Gibson will broadcast "World News" from inside the White House, and make Barack Obama's case for nationalized health care for him, without any opportunity for opposing views to be aired.

The liberal special interests have clearly learned from their missteps the last time they tried to force Americans into a socialized health care system -- the abysmal failure of the Clinton Administration's "HillaryCare."

That's why their friends at ABC News will be promoting Obamacare at virtually every opportunity, from "Good Morning America" to "Nightline," and reach from ABC News' websites all the way to the White House's East Room.

the Republican National Committee's request for an opportunity to add our views along side those of the Obama Democrats' -- to ensure that all sides of the health care reform debate are heard -- was flatly rejected by ABC News.
June 24th sounds pretty recent to me.

I would definitely think god cares being the omnipotent creator of the universe seeing something he made going wrong.

If you'll hear the economic argument, how come suddenly nobody should be a republican?

Whatever, I understand most of the population is Liberal anyways.
 

THE IRON KENYAN

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Why do people even talk about politics its the same thing over and over again its just the Republicans getting bagged as morons because of a couple of schmoes and people get swayed by the medias portray of George W Bush.


Way to bias the next generation into becoming Democrats, new networks. Now if there is a competent Republican how will vote for him when the stigma of George W Bush is still in our minds?


Im pretty much Republican because they make much more sense. THey just want the government to set ground rules to protect the really important things and let people run the world, just regular people; and most of the time if you havent noticed they arent ******** about doing it. They also know how to win, its just recently they ****ed up but you just wait they will have a presidential winning streak again like they did for the last 100 or so years for the most part.

More like 150 but whatever.
 

1048576

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You want to talk about all the Republicans who were engulfed in scandal and suddenly had a "D" under their names on Fox News? Or how about the times they misspelled Obama with an "S." Guess which letter they omitted. Both news networks are pretty one-sided, but at least MSNBC doesn't make things up.

Before you try to pretend you understand what God wants, learn the ramifications of an idea being unfalsifiable.

Republicans are crazy because they form their social policies on a work of fiction written several thousand years ago and retranslated half-a-dozen times. Economic stances are split 50-50 on who's right, IMO.

'The Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University, where researchers have tracked network news content for two decades, found that ABC, NBC and CBS were tougher on Obama than on Republican John McCain during the first six weeks of the general-election campaign.

You read it right: tougher on the Democrat.

During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.'

latimes.com

Every time we spend three weeks talking about Jeremiah Wright, that's just the media doing it's job; but the secong we talk about death threats and health care riots sprung by large corporations, that's the doggone liberal media playing favorites again. To you guys, reality has a left-wing bias.




A broader point; people talk about Socialism like it's the most horrible idea in the world. However, the free market does have it's shortcomings. For example, left unabated, the free market allows for monopolies which charge a price higher than equilibrium. The marginal cost to produce another good is less than the demand for that additional good. In a competitive market, this additional good would be produced and the GDP would increase. In a monopoly, these unsold, unproduced goods (unless you allow for price discrimination, which most firms don't/can't) account for a significant deadweight loss. It is the government's job to allow for enough competition to eliminate this loss and increase the GDP.


Personally, I think the goal of our society should be to maximize utility, not the GDP. To do this, we can invoke the Law of Diminishing Marginal Returns, which states that the more of a good you have, the less an additional unit of that good will mean to you. For example, if you had no coke and I offered you a can of coke, you'd prolly take it. If you already had ten cans of coke, and I offered you a coke, the cost of admitting you want something from me is now greater than the benefit of the coke, and you would probably decline. More to the point, if you and Bill Gates saw $5 on the sidewalk, who do you think would get to it first? $5 = $5, but it provides you a greater benefit than it provides Bill Gates, since he already has so many $'s. If Bill Gates could get $5, but you could only get $1, you would still prolly reach it first. $1 means more to you than $5 means to rich Bill. You see, society is happier when you take money from the rich and give it to the poor, even if you accrue some deadweight loss through taxes in the process. Obviously there is a limit, since the effort required to attain extra money has an associated cost, but to say, "everybody should just fend for themselves" is folly.

Personally, I find that the hardest jobs have the lowest wages/hour, so that whole hard work = success thing is a bunch of baloney, IMO. You're either born smart/lucky or you make $10/hour cutting grass.

You guys did get the minimum wage thing right, at least. Whn the cost of producing goods increases, the point at which it costs less to produce an additional good than people want to pay for it is pushed back, so less goods are produced. This will result in a higher price and some layoffs, so the people the Dems are trying to benefit with this wage hike are actually way worse off, since they're now unemployed and everything around them costs more. To me, the minimum wage should not be a wage you can live off of. It's much less damaging to the economy to tax the business owners and buy food stamps for those earning minimum wage. Same deadweight loss, same higher price, but at least you aren't laying people off.

I took Econ 3 years ago, so what I'm feeding you now is really just the basics.
 

The Immortal Sir NZ

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You want to talk about all the Republicans who were engulfed in scandal and suddenly had a "D" under their names on Fox News? Or how about the times they misspelled Obama with an "S." Guess which letter they omitted. Both news networks are pretty one-sided, but at least MSNBC doesn't make things up.

Before you try to pretend you understand what God wants, learn the ramifications of an idea being unfalsifiable.

Republicans are crazy because they form their social policies on a work of fiction written several thousand years ago and retranslated half-a-dozen times. Economic stances are split 50-50 on who's right, IMO.

'The Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University, where researchers have tracked network news content for two decades, found that ABC, NBC and CBS were tougher on Obama than on Republican John McCain during the first six weeks of the general-election campaign.

You read it right: tougher on the Democrat.

During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.'

latimes.com

Every time we spend three weeks talking about Jeremiah Wright, that's just the media doing it's job; but the secong we talk about death threats and health care riots sprung by large corporations, that's the doggone liberal media playing favorites again. To you guys, reality has a left-wing bias.




A broader point; people talk about Socialism like it's the most horrible idea in the world. However, the free market does have it's shortcomings. For example, left unabated, the free market allows for monopolies which charge a price higher than equilibrium. The marginal cost to produce another good is less than the demand for that additional good. In a competitive market, this additional good would be produced and the GDP would increase. In a monopoly, these unsold, unproduced goods (unless you allow for price discrimination, which most firms don't/can't) account for a significant deadweight loss. It is the government's job to allow for enough competition to eliminate this loss and increase the GDP.


Personally, I think the goal of our society should be to maximize utility, not the GDP. To do this, we can invoke the Law of Diminishing Marginal Returns, which states that the more of a good you have, the less an additional unit of that good will mean to you. For example, if you had no coke and I offered you a can of coke, you'd prolly take it. If you already had ten cans of coke, and I offered you a coke, the cost of admitting you want something from me is now greater than the benefit of the coke, and you would probably decline. More to the point, if you and Bill Gates saw $5 on the sidewalk, who do you think would get to it first? $5 = $5, but it provides you a greater benefit than it provides Bill Gates, since he already has so many $'s. If Bill Gates could get $5, but you could only get $1, you would still prolly reach it first. $1 means more to you than $5 means to rich Bill. You see, society is happier when you take money from the rich and give it to the poor, even if you accrue some deadweight loss through taxes in the process. Obviously there is a limit, since the effort required to attain extra money has an associated cost, but to say, "everybody should just fend for themselves" is folly.

Personally, I find that the hardest jobs have the lowest wages/hour, so that whole hard work = success thing is a bunch of baloney, IMO. You're either born smart/lucky or you make $10/hour cutting grass.

You guys did get the minimum wage thing right, at least. Whn the cost of producing goods increases, the point at which it costs less to produce an additional good than people want to pay for it is pushed back, so less goods are produced. This will result in a higher price and some layoffs, so the people the Dems are trying to benefit with this wage hike are actually way worse off, since they're now unemployed and everything around them costs more. To me, the minimum wage should not be a wage you can live off of. It's much less damaging to the economy to tax the business owners and buy food stamps for those earning minimum wage. Same deadweight loss, same higher price, but at least you aren't laying people off.

I took Econ 3 years ago, so what I'm feeding you now is really just the basics.
Okay, I understand your points.
They are all valid points, and it looks like neither of us is really going to give any ground.
So whatever, thanks for playing.
 

Scott!

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The GOP needs to stop lying blatantly about this healthcare thing. I'm tired of hearing their talking heads spew false accusations about Obama's death panel, or whatever they think he'll do. It's ridiculous.

Also,

Stephen Colbert said:
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
 

1048576

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I definitely didn't get it from Colbert when I said it.

I gave some ground already. Both parties are equally stupid when it comes to the economy. There's not a single person who can give me a valid reason why two consenting adults cannot have the federal legal rights associated with marriage. Yet we have half the country (actually 46% :p ) adamantly supporting this ridiculous proposition. It makes me physically sick to think about, tbh.
 
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