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The "R" Word - WARNING: triggers/graphic content

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Rainbow

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Except "ruining fun" is exactly why I dislike it when people use that word. It ruins my fun. It sucks the fun out of a game like oxygen through a blown airlock. Being ***** was the worst thing that ever happened to me, and I don't like to be reminded of it when I'm supposed to be enjoying myself. Imagine if someone captured your flag or dominated you in deathmatch, then rubbed in your face how your sister was killed by a drunk driver or your dad abandoned you when you were little. That's how close it cuts. People keep using the word "offended," in this discussion -- I'm not offended, I'm hurt. Hearing this word causes me emotional pain.
I mean obviously it's horrible that his pain is triggered by the word '****', but couldn't 'you're killing him' or 'you ****ed him up' trigger similiar post traumatic stress disorders in other people? Or maybe someone is triggered by something else entirely: a smell, a taste, a sound, or whatever. You can't control for every trigger possible. Sometimes it is going to happen.

And he's talking about **** in his article. You hear '****' on the TV everyday. You see it in the newspaper everyday. People get ***** in movies, ads on TV constantly remind one of the dangers of ****, I've been to several anti-**** seminars. Let's face it, **** is everywhere.

He says he can avoid **** triggers in other media, so I understand that the fact it is inserted into what could easily be a **** trigger free environment is disconcerting. However, if he is bombarded constantly with **** media, couldn't he just mute these kids on x-box live like he mutes the TV?

It may be different at a smash tournament because you can't mute someone in real life. But I'm sure if one tells people at the tournament site (though I'm sure this could definitely cause some ostracization) to stop using such language around oneself, one would be fine.



I don't know how I stand on the issue. It's a hard thing. Language is so complex and evolving, a word can mean entirely different things in different contexts. 'gay', 'cracker', '***', 'nasty'; these words can be positive, neutral, and possibly negative.

Trying to stop the evolution of language artificially can be a dangerous thing. When you essentially tell people what words they can use to express themselves; you are no longer in a free society. But at the same time, perhaps it is worth it. Losing a little freedom for a happier population.

edit: thanks, bing

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Bing

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I mean obviously it's horrible that her pain is triggered by the word '****', but couldn't 'you're killing him' or 'you ****ed him up' trigger similiar post traumatic stress disorders in other people? Or maybe someone is triggered by something else entirely: a smell, a taste, a sound, or whatever. You can't control for every trigger possible. Sometimes it is going to happen.
This difference between "You ****ed him up" and terms like these are that they're not as too the point, **** is ****. You ****ed him up atleast isnt as direct. However I do agree with this in general. Btw the article was written by a guy...
 

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newsflash: don't light-heatedly talk about ****** people amongst **** victims


glad this thread opened everybody's eyes
 

UltiMario

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I was about as opposed to trying to stop players from using language like "****" as you can get.

Now, I'm not sure what to think anymore.
 

Doser

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I'll stop when murder, destroyed, owned, etc. become frowned upon.

Murder, slavery, and other forms of torture are worse than ****.
 
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I'm against the use of the word 'gay' because Melee players complain like ******s

I dunno if I'd advocate not using the word '****' the same way, but I can understand reasons to not say it and all
 
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I was about as opposed to trying to stop players from using language like "****" as you can get.

Now, I'm not sure what to think anymore.
You're probably in the same camp as me, where you accept that the article is well written and you give the author due respect.

That said, I do agree that the use of the word has evolved as language to mean something else. When I ***** you at smash, I didn't pin you down by force and **** you against your will. I beat you at a video game. The hyperbole of the expression is the basis of the connotation. The author in the article does not seem to refute this, but merely asks for a reasonable level of accommodation with proper support. Whether or not you choose to adhere to that request is up to you.

But I probably won't.

I'll stop when murder, destroyed, owned, etc. become frowned upon.

Murder, slavery, and other forms of torture are worse than ****.
Debatable.
 
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