The Princess Elincia Support Thread

[Hejiru]

I'm surprised no one has suggested Princess Elincia yet. (Fire Emblem: Path of Radience) While she may not be the most famous character ever, she would still be an awesome addition to Brawl's roster. She is the only character in the FE games that can weild a Staff and Sword. A staff-weilder would be cool in Smash BRos. Healing parters, etc. And her entrance could be flying down on her pegasus. Anyway...

Elincia

Speed: Very High
Power: Average
Weight: Low
Jump: High

Special Moves

Nuetral B: Ashera Staff: Obviosully Elincia should have some kind of healing move, but of course I also tried not to make this move broken. She pulls out her Staff and a blue energy surrounds her, slowly healing damage. If a partner is close to her, it will heal him also, but beware: Elincia is very vulnerable will using this move. If she gets hit while healing, she will take double the damage she normally would. (I added this effect so she wouldn't be broken).

Side B: Amiti Slash: Elincia, being the Princess of Crimea, also weilds her sacred swrod, the Amiti. She slashes her sword twice, very quickly. It it hit the oppenent, he/she will be stunned for just a moment.

Up B:Somersault Slice: I had a bit of trouble with this one, simply because I couldn't think of an recovery move for her. She jumps up and does a flip in midair with her sword extended, causing not as much damage, but a lot of knockback power. (If anyone has any better suggestions, post them)

Down B:Teleport: This one is my favorite. I always thought Zelda would have a move like this. The first time you use it, Elincia's staff flashes and appears to do nothing. But if you are takinga beating from an enemy, you can use this move to escape. She will warp to the place you last set the teleprt to. After this, you will have to set a new teleport point. (I don't recomend using this on a stage like Rumble Falls, lol) If this is used in the air, she will teleport straight down to solid ground very quickly. (If she could teleport to a set place in midair, she would be unbeatable. Get knocked off the stage, zap: She's back)

Final Smash:Goddess' Blessing: When Elincia uses her final smash, she holds her staff high (she is invincible for this moment) and completely heals herself. Then her winged pegesus flies down from the sky and gives her a lift for a short time. While riding the pegesus, she can fly freely and shoot bolts of lightning from her staff. (Bolting)


Well? Whatcha think? I know she doesn't have that mucha chance, but Elinica could be a fun and unique fighter. If she dosent become a PC (which is likely unfortunately) she should at least be an AT and heal you. We need a healing AT. Anybody have questions, comments, flatulence? Post them here.

 

[RWB]

I'm not going to bash your idea.

Elincia was central to the plot in FE9, and is

Spoiler

one of the lords

of FE10.

She actually have a pretty good chance, I would say slightly less than BK had when we didn't know ike was slowsauce. Marth and Micaiah is more likely, yes, but Elincia would be next in line(With Ike taking the likely role that BK was thought to be filling).

What works against her is propably her weapon choice (the sword).
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That being said, I hate Elincia with a burning passion and hope she never sets her foot in Brawl.

I want Sanaki, but with Micaiah as pretty much a given as for a FE spellcaster.... ;_;

 

[vesperview]

Micaiah has more chance.

 

[Hong]

Ah. Elincia. Not exactly everyone's favourite unit, but I liked her. I'd definately like it if she got in, even if she was a sword wielder. Amiti is interesting because it always attacks twice. I feel this could be incorperated, along with staff magic to mix things up.

Here's an image of Elincia in her battle gear. I recommend you use it for the first post instead. xP

I just woke up so I can't provide any character move suggestions. If this thread still has some life later, I'll have something then.

 

[ThoraxeRMG]

At material.

 

[Yaya]

Hmm, although this would be a great addition, Krystal is also a staff wielder, and hurts Elincia's chances.

 

[shadenexus18]

Eh....I don't see her making an appearance as a playable and not even as an assist character. There are just way too many other deserving Fire Emblem representatives that are just way more popular than Elincia.

Still, if she appeared, I wouldn't complain. It'd be cool.

 

[Chidosengan]

At material.

QFT.

While I do agree she is the a main character, she is really hard to train (as you get her for only 3 chapter in lvl 1). She does seem better as a AT, as she's a Pegasus Knight. Maybe she can heal you, or use her occult attack or something.

Also,

Spoiler

even if Elincia is a lord in RD, the story focuses more on Ike and Micaiah. She's more like Lyn story-wise.

 

[Kirby knight]

Ah, the Princess Elincia. She certainly is important enough to the time-line of PoR to RD in order to make an appearance (but as what?).

Hmm, although this would be a great addition, Krystal is also a staff wielder, and hurts Elincia's chances.

How so? Can't anyone else us a staff as a sub weapon besides Krystal? Obviously Elincia would use Amiti (A sword).

-Knight

 

[Yaya]

Ah, the Princess Elincia. She certainly is important enough to the time-line of PoR to RD in order to make an appearance (but as what?).

How so? Can't anyone else us a staff as a sub weapon besides Krystal? Obviously Elincia would use Amiti (A sword).

-Knight

True, we have plenty of Sword users, we can have a couple staff users.

Kirby Knight 1

Yaya 0

 

[Hong]

xD I kind of hope Masahiro Sakurai finds her as cool as I did. It's one of those times when you're playing Fire Emblem and you say "Wow! This character is so cool! I wish I could actually use her if she didn't suck." The only chance she has of getting in is based on her importance and if Sakurai likes her character enough. Other than, bigger names of the series will sadly run the roster. D:

 

[shadenexus18]

Hmm, although this would be a great addition, Krystal is also a staff wielder, and hurts Elincia's chances.

1. They are both from different gaming franchises.
2. Even if they weren't, Kirby and Dedede have the same weapon of choice. The hammer.

So yeah....

Elincia 4 Brawl??

 

[raphtmarqui]

Ya, that's definitely a better picture

 

[Hong]

Suggestions for her moveset

The Ashera Staff idea is good. It can be used as a way of baiting people so I won't touch it.

B Forward
I rather have something as simple as swinging a sword for her other moves. I propose an ability called Sonic Sword. It's based off of the Sonic Swords in game which fire a ranged attack.

Sonic Sword
Elincia would lift Amiti and charge it up, conjuring up green winds around her. She would then swing it and send the a mystical gust of wind at her opponents with power and size depending on how long she charged it. Moves about as fast as Doc's pills in Melee. If the opponent is at a low percentage and it's uncharged, it'll just do a small flinch and basic damage. If it's fully charged or the opponent is weakened, they get tossed up a bit and fall onto the ground, unable to tech until after the wind clears. Elincia could then chase their roll or use the time to heal/escape. It wouldn't do a lot of damage, more for utility. I feel having a ranged attack of some sort would compliment having such a good baiting ability. Reword it as you wish.

B Up
I got something much different.

Crimean Blossom
Queen Elincia gives off a blue aura for one second. After that she quickly charges forward while holding out Amiti ahead of her. She can hold in any direction she wishes. This leaves a trail of flower petals (for appearance purposes only. They fade away). If Amiti makes contact with her opponent, Elincia delivers multiple slashes and then a final leaping slash Swordmaster style which also causes a rush of flower petals. If she didn't make contact with anyone, she enters freefall/grabs any ledges. If she did make contact, she can use it again after much like Falcon Dive. It's a cool attack, while still having some kind of elegance and uniqueness. During the first second, Elincia has flinch immunity. Though she can still be struck after that.

Here's a video of the infamous classic Swordmaster critical
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke01kPq6ww8


That's all I can say really. I'm not too fond of the Teleport ability but it's viable. The Sleep, Barrier and Torch staff magic could all make for interesting move possibilities instead.

 

[shadenexus18]

Suggestions for her moveset

The Ashera Staff idea is good. It can be used as a way of baiting people so I won't touch it.

B Forward
I rather have something as simple as swinging a sword for her other moves. I propose an ability called Sonic Sword. It's based off of the Sonic Swords in game which fire a ranged attack.

Sonic Sword
Elincia would lift Amiti and charge it up, conjuring up green winds around her. She would then swing it and send the a mystical gust of wind at her opponents with power and size depending on how long she charged it. Moves about as fast as Doc's pills in Melee. If the opponent is at a low percentage and it's uncharged, it'll just do a small flinch and basic damage. If it's fully charged or the opponent is weakened, they get tossed up a bit and fall onto the ground, unable to tech until after the wind clears. Elincia could then chase their roll or use the time to heal/escape. It wouldn't do a lot of damage, more for utility. I feel having a ranged attack of some sort would compliment having such a good baiting ability. Reword it as you wish.

B Up
I got something much different.

Crimean Blossom
Queen Elincia gives off a blue aura for one second. After that she quickly charges forward while holding out Amiti ahead of her. She can hold in any direction she wishes. This leaves a trail of flower petals (for appearance purposes only. They fade away). If Amiti makes contact with her opponent, Elincia delivers multiple slashes and then a final leaping slash Swordmaster style which also causes a rush of flower petals. If she didn't make contact with anyone, she enters freefall/grabs any ledges. If she did make contact, she can use it again after much like Falcon Dive. It's a cool attack, while still having some kind of elegance and uniqueness. During the first second, Elincia has flinch immunity. Though she can still be struck after that.

Here's a video of the infamous classic Swordmaster critical
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke01kPq6ww8


That's all I can say really. I'm not too fond of the Teleport ability but it's viable. The Sleep, Barrier and Torch staff magic could all make for interesting move possibilities instead.

Nice moveset by the way as usual sis.

Also, instead of her teleporting (so overated), why not make her have the ablity to "warp" vertically and horizontally?

Here's an example:

Akuma's Asura Warp/ Shin Goku Satsu

 

[cityofgarbage]

not a fan of elincia. seeing as she's not a playable character until the last 4th of the game, her smash future looks bleak. i realize she's a lord in radiant dawn, but why stoop for elincia when micaiah is more popular AND a magic user?

 

[Hong]

not a fan of elincia. seeing as she's not a playable character until the last 4th of the game, her smash future looks bleak. i realize she's a lord in radiant dawn, but why stoop for elincia when micaiah is more popular AND a magic user?

Staff + Magic Sword has just as many possibilities as Staff + Magic Tome. :/ I acknowledge that Micaiah has higher chances though. Elincia's credibility is that if you count Path of Radiance, she has more screen time than Micaiah. But in Radiant Dawn Micaiah easily has the most spotlight.

 

[Roy-Kun]

I say the Black Knight got better chances, and his chances are not good.

Elincia for AT, that's more likely.

 

[cityofgarbage]

i guess you're right about the sword and staff, i'd just rather have a fire emblem character that exclusively DOESN'T use a sword for once. well ...who am i kidding? i just really hate elincia, haha.

 

[Hong]

I say the Black Knight got better chances, and his chances are not good.

I don't know about that. On one hand, Black Knight appeared on the polls and is a reoccuring villian. On the other hand, Elincia was the costar of Path of Radiance and third seat behind Micaiah and Ike in Radiant Dawn

I mean, how many people like Black Knight for being a decent character? When you see supporters on forums like these, they just like him for being the "badass" Black Knight ruthless guy he is. He has an intriuging character, I will give you that. But how many people actually know about him? Fire Emblem here is like Metroid in Japan. Popular but still behind the ranks.

While Ike is the aggressor and protagonist of Path of Radiance, Elincia retaking Crimea is the center of the plot. Along the way they encounter the rare sighting of the Black Knight or incidents tracing back to Lehran's Medallion. But the plot is still conducted by Elincia and acted in battle by Ike. Black Knight while being more desired for Brawl, won't matter much because he only got one response. If the a character gets numerous responses, you know the developers like the idea. But if it's just one, they looked into the idea but you don't really know if they like it.

Because of all this, I say Elincia has better chances. If Sakurai likes her or wants a partner for Ike based on Path of Radiance, he will chose Elincia. If he wants the most popular recent Fire Emblem character and partner of Ike in Radiant Dawn, he will choose Micaiah.

Elincia for AT, that's more likely.

Anyone can be an AT. It's like people say 'lol AT spot' as some sort of defending gratification.

Edit -

i guess you're right about the sword and staff, i'd just rather have a fire emblem character that exclusively DOESN'T use a sword for once. well ...who am i kidding? i just really hate elincia, haha.

I definately agree with the sword part. Sakurai is giving people the wrong idea about Fire Emblem by using swords for everything. Those who have never played Fire Emblem probably think it's some generic RPG game with a guy that has messy hair and sword taking down an evil overlord to save the world.

As for hating Elincia, a lot of people hate her for her stats. xD
Her concept and character personality isn't bad though. A lot of people discredit her for her lack of confidence in being a queen. But Ike was the same when

Spoiler

he took over Greil Mercenaries

, right?

 

[Roy-Kun]

I don't know about that. On one hand, Black Knight appeared on the polls and is a reoccuring villian. On the other hand, Elincia was the costar of Path of Radiance and third seat behind Micaiah and Ike in Radiant Dawn

I mean, how many people like Black Knight for being a decent character? When you see supporters on forums like these, they just like him for being the "badass" Black Knight ruthless guy he is. He has an intriuging character, I will give you that. But how many people actually know about him? Fire Emblem here is like Metroid in Japan. Popular but still behind the ranks.

While Ike is the aggressor and protagonist of Path of Radiance, Elincia retaking Crimea is the center of the plot. Along the way they encounter the rare sighting of the Black Knight or incidents tracing back to Lehran's Medallion. But the plot is still conducted by Elincia and acted in battle by Ike. Black Knight while being more desired for Brawl, won't matter much because he only got one response. If the a character gets numerous responses, you know the developers like the idea. But if it's just one, they looked into the idea but you don't really know if they like it.

Because of all this, I say Elincia has better chances. If Sakurai likes her or wants a partner for Ike based on Path of Radiance, he will chose Elincia. If he wants the most popular recent Fire Emblem character and partner of Ike in Radiant Dawn, he will choose Micaiah.

I understand, still I say that the Black Knight got better chances, and those are not the best chances.

I'd want Micaiah instead, because it actually doesn't matters if Elincia dies in the story (at least in most of chapters), the game is not over unless Ike or Micaiah die.

Anyone can be an AT. It's like people say 'lol AT spot' as some sort of defending gratification.

You think I don't know? And I typed "more likely", means that Elincia's chances for AT are higher than those of her Playable Chances.

 

[Rakath]

Personally, I want Mist over Elincia. She's cuter and is a lot more involved in the FE9 and FE10 plot. Even if she isn't a game loss character. She has a unique class in both games and would also give the Sword+Stave dynamic Elincia would. The difference is that Mist is non-mounted for half of 10 while still with a Sword.

Yeah, I know, she's got no chance compared to the huge selection of FE cast that could get in, but Mist is cute.

 

[raphtmarqui]

With a FE roster of most likely 2 or 3 characters, Elincia doesn't stand a chance/

 

[Roy-Kun]

Personally, I want Mist over Elincia. She's cuter and is a lot more involved in the FE9 and FE10 plot. Even if she isn't a game loss character. She has a unique class in both games and would also give the Sword+Stave dynamic Elincia would. The difference is that Mist is non-mounted for half of 10 while still with a Sword.

Yeah, I know, she's got no chance compared to the huge selection of FE cast that could get in, but Mist is cute.

QFT, o.o

Mist fans unite! *bricked, violently*

 

[Hong]

xD I'm a Mist fan too! I like both Elincia and Mist equally character wise but I like Elincia's appearance a lot more.

 

[Rakath]

Mist is a hair away from Lord in 10. Unique sword only she can weild, unique class, unique Promotional item. Just you don't lose when she dies. (But I would reset if she died! Mist 4 life).

 

[shadenexus18]

I mean, how many people like Black Knight for being a decent character? When you see supporters on forums like these, they just like him for being the "badass" Black Knight ruthless guy he is. He has an intriuging character, I will give you that. But how many people actually know about him? Fire Emblem here is like Metroid in Japan. Popular but still behind the ranks.

Sorry but it's the sad truth that if the main antagonist of a story looks truly sleek and he's a bad a$$, that he's likely to have fanboys up the ying yang. The Black Knight is no exception.

Edit: Elincia 4 Brawl

 

[xianfeng]

I love Elincia, she is awsome and like so perfect for Ike XD. Also she plays a more important role in Radiant Dawn (allthough pretty minor compared to Micaiah and Ike but more important than regular units like Sothe and Nephenee)

 

[Ferro De Lupe]

She is the only character in the FE games that can weild a Staff and Sword.

I'm sure someone else has commented on this already, but...

Mist (when promoted) also uses a sword/staff combo.

*Edit*

For the record, I was speaking about FE9 Mist. Don't know about FE10 Mist.

 

[NukeA6]

Sakurai isn't gonna stick with one Fire Emblem. Micaiah only has a chance since she is the star of FE10.

The only non-lords that have the chance are ones with fanbases that rival the lords.

 

[shadenexus18]

Sakurai isn't gonna stick with one Fire Emblem. Micaiah only has a chance since she is the star of FE10.

The only non-lords that have the chance are ones with fanbases that rival the lords.

I disagree. Elincia has a chance. A very very very slim chance, but a chance nonetheless. Look, just because a particular character (like Elincia and Mist) doesn't have much of a fanbase and isn't an extremely popular FE character, doesn't mean that they have NO chance of getting in. Come now, you know this is true.

 

[Hong]

The only non-lords that have the chance are ones with fanbases that rival the lords.

I can prove that wrong in one of two ways.

In the literal way, Micaiah never has the title of "Lord".

If you mean Lord as in an iconic Fire Emblem character who frees his or her country from an evil ruler and becomes the king/queen (or assisted said royalty) then Elincia is a Lord. While Ike escorted her for most of the game, Elincia fought towards the later chapter and was a mandatory unit in I believe two occasions? She fought along with Ike to retake her kingdom and free it from an evil ruler, thus she is a lord. Not just escorted from start to finish.

In Radiant Dawn, it can be said that Micaiah (main), Ike (second to main), Queen Elincia and Sanaki are all Lords without having the literal title "Lord".

 

[NukeA6]

I can prove that wrong in one of two ways.

In the literal way, Micaiah never has the title of "Lord".

If you mean Lord as in an iconic Fire Emblem character who frees his or her country from an evil ruler and becomes the king/queen (or assisted said royalty) then Elincia is a Lord. While Ike escorted her for most of the game, Elincia fought towards the later chapter and was a mandatory unit in I believe two occasions? She fought along with Ike to retake her kingdom and free it from an evil ruler, thus she is a lord. Not just escorted from start to finish.

In Radiant Dawn, it can be said that Micaiah (main), Ike (second to main), Queen Elincia and Sanaki are all Lords without having the literal title "Lord".

So she is a

Spoiler

lord

(I didn't look at the spoilers). Good enough then.

 

[Hong]

Mist is a hair away from Lord in 10. Unique sword only she can weild, unique class, unique Promotional item. Just you don't lose when she dies. (But I would reset if she died! Mist 4 life).

xD Elincia has all of that (except the promotional item) and more.

• Lord status
• Queen class
• Unique Sword
• Important role in the first and last game
• Gets to lead her own battles
• And a better English voice actor. At least in my opinion. xP

Oh, and I'm not really a fan of Mist's outfit in Radiant Dawn. :/

 

[Rakath]

xD Elincia has all of that (except the promotional item) and more.

• Lord status
• Queen class
• Unique Sword
• Important role in the first and last game
• Gets to lead her own battles
• And a better English voice actor. At least in my opinion. xP

Oh, and I'm not really a fan of Mist's outfit in Radiant Dawn. :/

Except Elincia is a perminantly mounted unit, I know that any chance Mist has is overshadowed by Elincia except that one. Mist fights off her horse, Elincia always has the Pegasus.

I love her RD outfit, okay, so her starting Path outfit was better, but that doesn't make her RD outfit bad.

 

[Kirby knight]

Except Elincia is a perminantly mounted unit, I know that any chance Mist has is overshadowed by Elincia except that one. Mist fights off her horse, Elincia always has the Pegasus.

I love her RD outfit, okay, so her starting Path outfit was better, but that doesn't make her RD outfit bad.

What point are you trying to make by mentioning that Elincia is always mounted in Fire Emblem?

-Knight

 

[Rakath]

What point are you trying to make by mentioning that Elincia is always mounted in Fire Emblem?

-Knight

That even that minor change is still a change.

Elincia on a Pegasus in brawl would naturally be obnoxious. So they'll remove it. Mist (pre promotion in 10) has no Horse, just sword + stave and on foot.

I know, it isn't much, but it's all Mist has going for her.

 

[xianfeng]

God forbid that they take her off her pegasus, it would be like taking Captain Falcon out of his space car, it just is NOT done ever.

 

[Rakath]

God forbid that they take her off her pegasus, it would be like taking Captain Falcon out of his space car, it just is NOT done ever.

Didn't say they wouldn't. Just stating that we have anouther character of a similar make without the change needed. Really, the sarcasm was uneeded.

 

[Hong]

Didn't say they wouldn't. Just stating that we have anouther character of a similar make without the change needed. Really, the sarcasm was uneeded.

I understand what you mean though it's just that riding a pegasi isn't really a special or specific quality of Elincia. I mean, she could still swing a sword on foot. xP It's not really modifying the character, especially considering how distorted Fire Emblem characters are in Brawl. Why is Ragnell so huge!? Why is Ike slower than Bowser? Why can't Roy's overpowered sword nuke enemies from halfway across the stage? All because of distortion. xP I mean, to put a Radiant Dawn Mist next to a Path of Radiance Ike would require a lot of distortion on its own.

I understand where you're coming from, though.