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The Offical "Rate My Snake Plz" Thread

S.K.I.D

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I couldnt find a rate my snake thread. So now I'm making a new improved rate my Snake video thread. I'll start off with my Snake. I think he's OK so you guys rate him first.

Me VS a Pro Diddy in Smashville. You can watch the whole set, but this game is probably the funnest. I get to last stock at like 100% and he still has 2 stocks. But then the guns come a blazin. You'll have to see this one to belive it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXr8XGbdAb0&feature=channel_page



Heres an insane doubles replay. I don't know how good u can rate this one, but its awesome. Im on Team Twapazoid and we face Robo-Sword. For insane funnies, go to about 30 seconds in and watch the MetaKnight VS Diddy Kong part. It's awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SyytL9FtWw&feature=channel

And now that this is the offical rate my Snake thread, other people can also post there videos.

Also I'm gonna become one of the top Snake raters. So I'll use my knowlegde of the game to help the other noobin Snakes
 

S.K.I.D

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BTW just cuz my post count is low doesnt mean i dont know what im talking about. ive been on these forums awhile

im not usr ehow good i am at rating but we will see

match specific

I can add some rating to this video of yours of my own. I main Snake and Falco. your first problem was that(or at least what i do) is whort hop to drop my mines. it makes it much better. also since your facing falco, you cant get grabbed early. you approached him. if you stayed back and gernade camped and tanked the lasers he couldnt chain grab u and throw you in a bad situiation. this costed you you r first stock at a low percent. and insted of going for the ledge you should have bomb hopped since your mine on the stage exploded. people can easily sheild the last hit of your jab, which the falco then sheild grabbed you and chaingrabbed. Dont B air right infront cuz if you miss hes gonna opunish that, which he did with an fsmash. When u grabbed him, you usally threw him to the side. i would say down throw because you can easily chain into grabs or Ftilts. Also, everytime you grab you should get in the habbit of pummeling them, which i dont think you did once. You did have anice comeback in the end and that final mine kill was cool.

Overall.
I dont think you uptilted once. Falco can probably be juggles with it at low percents. and its an overall good damageing move to use throughout. You should have camped more in the beggining of each stock so you didnt get grabbed. Its better to take the lasers then the grab at early percents. you saw this easily because he Killed you with the chaingrab at like 50%. More gernades, the ones you used were used nicly, but they could have been better. More ftilt, this move is inssane. Less jab, especially when you sAw he could shield grab the last hit and chaingrab you. Everyjab could have been an ftilt and more damage. You also never Dtiled, although its not that good, it can be used. i think you Nair'd once, never down aired, Dair can be good to punish sidesteps and such. and dont backair into the ground at close range

Overall if my snake is a 6

i would rate yours as a 7.5. i seems better then mine. so good job.
 

SuSa

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Correction, Falco is just one that can hold shield to shield the 3rd hit.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=6574674&postcount=159

When you grab Falco your best bet is to pummel, stop, grab release, boost grab regrab, pummel, and repeat until you are close to the edge. Then down throw, shield, and ftilt whatever option he chooses. Optionally Falco is one of those with an Away-Towards attack, so if you can react quickly you don't need to shield and you may be able to regrab him if you can react quickly.

Camping with 'nades and tanking lasers isn't even needed. Just start the match and crouch, learn the spacing for Falco's IAP and learn the timing where you can DACUS, hit him, then crouch again. There is a timing and it's just before Falco reaches the apex of his jump. Then it's just a matter of spacing.

To be honest, Snake's moves have such a large damage output you can still have a slightly stale up tilt if you used it 2-3 times to juggle in the beginning. You also have better options then utilt juggling normally.

Ftilt is 1 frame slower then jab, that 1 frame honestly doesn't make a huge difference most of the time, but if you do jab. Pause then ftilt, I haven't done frame data but it seems guarenteed so long as the jab hit. Using the full jab combo is only on some select matchups (see thread I linked to)

You have far better options then dtilt most of the time, and the only time I really use it is when Falco IAP's in front of me and hopes to grab me. (I'm crouching from the start of the match, remember?)

Nair is great against Falco.

dair can be SDI'd and normally has strange hitting effects so the last hit rarely hits except against heavyweights for some reason... But as mentioned, great for punishing sidesteps.

Bair into the ground at close range can be good, but only situational and unexpected. Otherwise you get shieldgrabbed.

Just some corrections I felt were necessary to your feedback.
 

GTR!

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Hey, I know my snake isnt the best and these are from a tourney almost 3 weeks ago.

When i randomly run and throw a grenade that is me trying to jump-cancel throw so sorry :/ since this video ive been implementing b reversal grenades into my game as well as trying to stop to roll so much i know i do it WAYYY too much but anywayas critque if you wnat anyways

sorry if i suck :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcOLud_hZRo
 

Sinz

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I couldnt find a rate my snake thread. So now I'm making a new improved rate my Snake video thread. I'll start off with my Snake. I think he's OK so you guys rate him first.

Me VS a Pro Diddy in Smashville. You can watch the whole set, but this game is probably the funnest. I get to last stock at like 100% and he still has 2 stocks. But then the guns come a blazin. You'll have to see this one to belive it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXr8XGbdAb0&feature=channel_page



Heres an insane doubles replay. I don't know how good u can rate this one, but its awesome. Im on Team Twapazoid and we face Robo-Sword. For insane funnies, go to about 30 seconds in and watch the MetaKnight VS Diddy Kong part. It's awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SyytL9FtWw&feature=channel

And now that this is the offical rate my Snake thread, other people can also post there videos.

Also I'm gonna become one of the top Snake raters. So I'll use my knowlegde of the game to help the other noobin Snakes
First of all, that diddy is not pro status.
Second of all, the biggest thing I can say it learn how to Instant throw projectiles. It helps a lot. Also, when ever you land make sure to hit z or air dodge. Either one works, you will pick up the banana and not trip. When Edge guarding
You need to calm down on your mortar slides. You are doing to many vs a character with more options to punish it. Better options are to nade, hold it and walk toward them and toss up. Then Retreat with a nade drop and an autocanceled nair.

@GTR- One of your main issues is cooking your nades. You need to work on cooking them. And make sure to walk your nades and throw them upwards(hold back). You've got a decent snake, you'll do fine. :D Vs DK, grab the ledge and bair. If he is above 100% just stand near the ledge and just jab. He can't get around it.
 

Panix

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Hey, I know my snake isnt the best and these are from a tourney almost 3 weeks ago.

When i randomly run and throw a grenade that is me trying to jump-cancel throw so sorry :/ since this video ive been implementing b reversal grenades into my game as well as trying to stop to roll so much i know i do it WAYYY too much but anywayas critque if you wnat anyways

sorry if i suck :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcOLud_hZRo
Yes, stop rolling =P Like really you use that as an apporach, that's a no no if you want to place well.

Quick notes:

Donkey kong = big = dair = effective
DK gets inv from his up b. pulling nades don't really help if you see that commin.
side b off stage? that lost you a stock, recovery high as much as you can.
smart thing to do when your knocked off stage is jump back towards stage while tossing a nade onto the stage, helps you with the edge guarders who stay at the ledge.
Ftilting was fine
Utilit a little less.
C4 alot more, it's a style of camping =p.
spacing needs some adjustment.
More mortars.
and better DI, you could of lived a little longer.


Thats my recipe <3

Good luck me amegio.
 

Tiender Bocks

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That was a really good Snake, IxxI. :o I liked how you didn't use Bair everytime you landed, like most Snakes I've seen tend to do.
 
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