The NU Metagame Discussion Thread

[Wave⁂]

I'm sure lots of you people in the NU tournament don't want to share your super duper seekrit strategies, but I'm sure we can discuss more general things.

For starters, usage statistics on the NU Server's Ladder:

    565 Medicham
    564 Gardevoir
    453 Sandslash
    451 Gligar
    448 Skuntank
    442 Pinsir
    422 Jumpluff
    379 Manectric
    366 Dusclops
    363 Slowking
    357 Magneton
    318 Flareon
    305 Relicanth
    296 Primeape
    293 Entei
    280 Hitmonchan
    274 Exeggutor
    271 Lickilicky
    253 Persian
    250 Leafeon
    232 Drifblim
    230 Poliwrath
    228 Linoone
    217 Ninetales
    205 Tauros
    203 Haunter
    183 Floatzel
    180 Venomoth
    174 Regice
    172 Gorebyss
    167 Hypno
    163 Camerupt
    160 Gastrodon
    150 Rhydon
    147 Cloyster
    144 Armaldo
    143 Ursaring
    140 Marowak
    136 Dodrio
    132 Purugly
    130 Muk
    129 Kangaskhan
    129 Golduck
    125 Lapras
    124 Cradily
    123 Probopass
    118 Glaceon
    117 Parasect
    109 Regigigas
    108 Aggron
    105 Vileplume
    105 Gabite
    105 Ampharos
    104 Banette
     97 Cacturne
     96 Shedinja
     95 Victreebel
     87 Sharpedo
     86 Zangoose
     86 Articuno
     83 Bibarel
     82 Slaking
     81 Luxray
     81 Hippopotas
     78 Munchlax
     77 Quagsire
     77 Bastiodon
     76 Wailord
     74 Rapidash
     73 Butterfree
     72 Shuckle
     71 Sneasel
     71 Lopunny
     70 Jynx
     69 Qwilfish
     69 Meganium
     65 Torkoal
     65 Shelgon
     64 Snover
     61 Solrock
     60 Piloswine
     59 Rampardos
     51 Walrein
     51 Kecleon
     49 Sudowoodo
     49 Pikachu
     48 Seviper
     48 Kingler
     47 Raticate
     41 Golem
     38 Kadabra
     37 Monferno
     36 Dustox
     35 Golbat
     34 Granbull
     34 Arbok
     33 Pelipper
     33 Mantine
     33 Ditto
     32 Magmar
     32 Machoke
     30 Vigoroth
     30 Dragonair
     29 Delibird
     29 Cleffa
     29 Clefairy
     28 Sableye
     28 Chatot
     27 Xatu
     27 Lunatone
     26 Tropius
     26 Shiftry
     26 Mr. Mime
     26 Electabuzz
     26 Clamperl
     25 Glalie
     24 Sunflora
     24 Raichu
     24 Phione
     24 Octillery
     24 Chimecho
     23 Politoed
     23 Metang
     23 Magcargo
     23 Huntail
     23 Dunsparce
     23 Bellossom
     21 Lumineon
     21 Ledian
     13 Wigglytuff
     12 Plusle
     12 Girafarig
     12 Crawdaunt
     11 Porygon
     11 Minun
     11 Grumpig
     11 Carnivine
     10 Pidgeot
     10 Delcatty
     10 Corsola
      9 Togetic
      9 Roselia
      9 Ariados
      8 Exploud
      8 Duskull
      7 Voltorb
      7 Trapinch
      7 Togepi
      7 Shuppet
      7 Pachirisu
      7 Mightyena
      7 Magnemite
      7 Krabby
      7 Bonsly
      7 Beedrill
      6 Yanma
      6 Marshtomp
      6 Eevee
      6 Cranidos
      6 Beautifly
      5 Tangela
      5 Prinplup
      5 Noctowl
      5 Masquerain
      5 Glameow
      4 Stantler
      4 Murkrow
      4 Misdreavus
      4 Graveler
      4 Furret
      4 Farfetch'd
      4 Diglett
      3 Wormadam-s
      3 Vibrava
      3 Swalot
      3 Seaking
      3 Rattata
      3 Castform
      2 Whiscash
      2 Spinda
      2 Mothim
      2 Combusken
      1 Wormadam
      1 Unown
      1 Sunkern
      1 Skorupi
      1 Remoraid
      1 Pidgeotto
      1 Nidorino
      1 Nidorina
      1 Meowth
      1 Meditite
      1 Mawile
      1 Kabuto
      1 Ivysaur
      1 Illumise
      1 Growlithe
      1 Fearow
      1 Ekans
      1 Dewgong
      1 Chimchar
      1 Charmeleon
      1 Charmander
      1 Bronzor

Why is Medicham NU, again?

 

[karthik_king]

Medicham is NU :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O O :O :O :O :O :O O :O :O :O :O :O O :O :O

 

[Circa]

Yeahhh...I'm pretty lost on how Medicham is NU. As for what I've been using and seeing (I'm planning on making a new team anyway, so whatevs), Victreebel can be extremely cruel in NU. Actually, it amazes me that they have Exeggutor up there in the OU of the NU tier, but nothing that really abuses the sunlight (apart from Jumpluff). Victreebel also does an amazing job at it, thanks to having access to Swords Dance and Sleep Powder.

 

[Wave⁂]

Exeguttor is sturdy enough to survive some physical attacks, set up the Sun, and fire off Solar Beams from its base 125 SpAtk.

 

[Hobobloke]

<3 NU, Regigigas isn't too bad with the low attacking power of NU compared to other tiers he can often wait out the 5 turns and do some serious damage.

 

[supermarth64]

Surprised Regice isn't up there somewhere.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Yeah I also figured Regice would be up there.

Gardevoir deserves more credit in my opinion though.

-Terywj

 

[SHUCKLE MAN]

Why are people shocked about Medicham being NU!?! It makes perfect sense to me!

 

[MorphedChaos]

HOW THE HELL is Gardevoir NU? I've walled entire teams with some of my Gardevoirs! Not to mention they are by far one of the better support/healing pokemon. You can also use Gardevoir to sweep if you want, I just don't get it >.>...

Oh, and Trace is an amazing ability.

 

[Hobobloke]

What set do you use MC?

 

[Circa]

HOW THE HELL is Gardevoir NU? I've walled entire teams with some of my Gardevoirs! Not to mention they are by far one of the better support/healing pokemon. You can also use Gardevoir to sweep if you want, I just don't get it >.>...

Oh, and Trace is an amazing ability.

Probably for the same reason as why a few others are in NU. They're not necessarily bad, but there are other Pokemon that tend to do their job better. Gardevoir can fit a few different roles, which makes it pretty decent for unpredictability, but Alakazam and Porygon-Z sweep better while others can wall better. It's quite simply that.

Same can be said for Slowking, who isn't as good at special walling as Blissey but can beat Blissey in a one-on-one.

 

[MorphedChaos]

What set do you use MC?

Uhm, I've got a bunch of them. Some are experiments, others are real sets. I don't remember the natures off the top of my head though.

@Leftovers
Wish
Protect
Will-o-wisp
Hidden power Ground.


@Choice Scarf
Focus Blast
Psychic
Energy Ball
Hidden power Ice


@Leftovers (I think.)
Skill Swap
Will-o-wisp
Thunderbolt
Wish


@Leftovers
Wish
Light Screen
Reflect
Psychic



And a few others. Maybe not the best movesets, but I still love my Gardevoirs.

 

[Wave⁂]

First post updated with stats.

 

[supermarth64]

Mostly because Porygon2 is better in OU because it has the defensive stats needed, and abilities suck in UU.