The not-so Big Bird: Pidgey for Smash DLC

[Archimedes]

This is incredibly silly but a bird fighter would be interesting. Still would rather see a Dog/Wolf fighter though

Edit: oh wait . Well he doesn't use canine like moves so doesn't count :x

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

This is incredibly silly but a bird fighter would be interesting. Still would rather see a Dog/Wolf fighter though

Edit: oh wait . Well he doesn't use canine like moves so doesn't count :x

 

[Braydon]

You have no idea awesome it would be for Gengar to be in Smash!!! (and Scizor would be better than Scyther as it has already made an appearance in smash)

I really can't understand why he isn't in, he's iconic, he'd have an original playstyle, he has a mega evolution for final smash, which they seem to prefer. Of all the pokemon that aren't in smash gengar seems like the best candidate.

Though tyranitar, sceptile, and blaziken seem pretty good too.


Anyway I think Scyther would be better, scizor is the slow and clunky in comparison, Scyther's scythe's seem like they would make for better attacks.

 

[Aetheri]

I really can't understand why he isn't in, he's iconic, he'd have an original playstyle, he has a mega evolution for final smash, which they seem to prefer. Of all the pokemon that aren't in smash gengar seems like the best candidate.


Anyway I think Scyther would be better, scizor is the slow and clunky in comparison, Scyther's scythe's seem like they would make for better attacks.

There's about 50 pokemon that are in the same ballpark, you have to remember that (he's also not that iconic, at least not to the degree of the current fighters and out of the pokemon you have shown Meowth is the only other one that has the same degree of popularity since he's only second to pikachu when it comes to anime and movie appearances)...Smash needs a degree of balance and while there are several pokemon I'd like to see I'd rather not have half the roster filled with 20 or so (decently) popular pokemon...

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

There's about 50 pokemon that are in the same ballpark, you have to remember that (he's also not that iconic, at least not to the degree of the current fighters and out of the pokemon you have shown Meowth is the only other one that has the same degree of popularity since he's only second to pikachu when it comes to anime and movie appearances)...Smash needs a degree of balance and while there are several pokemon I'd like to see I'd rather not have half the roster filled with 20 or so (decently) popular pokemon...

Yeah. This Pidgey thread just goes to show how easy a Pokémon is eligible for smash. Heck, I think even Wooper could join smash with enough creativity. I think the only Pokémon that couldn't are Pokémon that are too oddly shaped to be resized (Like Tyranitar), or they are a fish, (And even then they could just defy gravity.)

 

[Braydon]

Yeah. This Pidgey thread just goes to show how easy a Pokémon is eligible for smash. Heck, I think even Wooper could join smash with enough creativity. I think the only Pokémon that couldn't are Pokémon that are too oddly shaped to be resized (Like Tyranitar), or they are a fish, (And even then they could just defy gravity.)

Pidgey is to small, and why would you want a pokemon like wooper?

Tyranitar is the same size as mewtwo so it would be fine to add it.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Pidgey is to small, and why would you want a pokemon like wooper?

Tyranitar is the same size as mewtwo so it would be fine to add it.

Wooper is awesome! What are you talking about? I'm just saying there are a lot of Pokémon that could work in smash. Pidgey is too small you say? , and the list goes on. Tyranitar could be scaled down, but his arms are too stubby to be able to fight correctly. Even with elastic limbs.

 

[Braydon]

Tyranitar could be scaled down, but his arms are too stubby to be able to fight correctly. Even with elastic limbs.

Tyranitar wouldn't need to be scaled down, he's the same height as mewtwo.

Also how would stubby arms hurt him? Charizard has stubby arms, he doesn't even use them in a single attack, well other than grab.

Tyranitar isn't supposed to be lil mac, so I don't see how short arms hurts him.

 

[Aetheri]

Tyranitar wouldn't need to be scaled down, he's the same height as mewtwo.

Also how would stubby arms hurt him? Charizard has stubby arms, he doesn't even use them in a single attack, well other than grab.

Tyranitar isn't supposed to be lil mac, so I don't see how short arms hurts him.

who says a character needs to use their arms...

 

[ES. Dinah]

This made me laugh A LOT. Thank you for brightening my day.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Tyranitar wouldn't need to be scaled down, he's the same height as mewtwo.

Also how would stubby arms hurt him? Charizard has stubby arms, he doesn't even use them in a single attack, well other than grab.

Tyranitar isn't supposed to be lil mac, so I don't see how short arms hurts him.

Charizard does use them in his forward areal. (It gives him elastic arms.) Actually, thinking more on it Tyranitar could work, but I'd imagine he would work as a shorter range Bowser.

 

[Braydon]

Charizard does use them in his forward areal. (It gives him elastic arms.) Actually, thinking more on it Tyranitar could work, but I'd imagine he would work as a shorter range Bowser.

Forgot about Fair, but the point stands. Anyway I don't see him winding up to much like bowser, similar body shape doesn't necessitate a similar fighting style.

I'd like to see sandstorm worked into him somehow, seeing as he is the original weather pokemon.


@ Aetheri
I don't really see there being a lot of pokemon on the same level as gengar, you said there were about 40 around his level, but I'm not seeing it. Gengar is a classic, and the original ghost pokemon, I also think he's been in the anime a decent amount though I don't really remember having not watched it in like 8 years.

 

[Aetheri]

@ Aetheri
I don't really see there being a lot of pokemon on the same level as gengar, you said there were about 40 around his level, but I'm not seeing it. Gengar is a classic, and the original ghost pokemon, I also think he's been in the anime a decent amount though I don't really remember having not watched it in like 8 years.

You could come up with about 10 from each generation, starting with the starters of course...not too mention the first 151 are classics; gengar is pretty much on even grounds with Alakazam remember in Gen 1 Psychic types were way OP (the only pokemon better than Alakazam in Gen 1, competitively speaking, was Mewtwo) then you got Raichu, despite being the less popular evolved form of Pikachu has a strong following, Eevee (deceptively huge fanbase), Snorlax, Machamp's recent surge in popularity thanks to Pokken, Weezing and Arbok as well being the original pokes of Team Rocket, I could go on really as this is just from Gen 1. Since smash featured about 6 pokes from Gen 1 it is very unlikely that any more will get in, that said if they were to choose one the best most logical choice (when it comes to newcomers) is Meowth, who I feel is the only Gen 1 poke left (outside of the starters and Mew) that actually deserves a spot (though I'd rather see other pokes)....
As I said when it comes right down to it, Gengar doesn't really hold up as a "Pokemon Icon" compared to several others, at least not smash worthy (I mean Gastly is featured in Smash Run and Gengar is nowhere to be found)

 

[Braydon]

You could come up with about 10 from each generation, starting with the starters of course...not too mention the first 151 are classics; gengar is pretty much on even grounds with Alakazam remember in Gen 1 Psychic types were way OP (the only pokemon better than Alakazam in Gen 1, competitively speaking, was Mewtwo) then you got Raichu, despite being the less popular evolved form of Pikachu has a strong following, Eevee (deceptively huge fanbase), Snorlax, Machamp's recent surge in popularity thanks to Pokken, Weezing and Arbok as well being the original pokes of Team Rocket, I could go on really as this is just from Gen 1. Since smash featured about 6 pokes from Gen 1 it is very unlikely that any more will get in, that said if they were to choose one the best most logical choice (when it comes to newcomers) is Meowth, who I feel is the only Gen 1 poke left (outside of the starters and Mew) that actually deserves a spot (though I'd rather see other pokes)....

A lot of those pokemon are out of the question, first of all they're not going to put in multiple pokemon from the same evolution tree, so I'd count out raichu, weezing and arbok have awkward body shapes that make them bad options, snorlax is to big, eevee would be a boring fighter, it's only real purpose is to evolve, it's just got lame normal attacks that are boring.

Honestly I don't see alakazam as level with gengar, he hasn't really been seen outside the main games and he appears less prominently than gengar. His competitive use isn't really relevant to his popularity because most pokemon players are not competitive.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Wowah, new Pidgey People!

Who can I make a Wingman, give him/her a Pidgey Badge and put him/her on the supporters list?
Pidgey Badge not included

Power to the Pidgey!

is better.

Actually if you wanted a serious gen 1 candidate there are ton of iconic pokemon to choose from





Splash could actually be an attack that pushes people back from him.

If you want a serious Gen 1 canidate I'd pick Pidgey.
I don't know even half of these guys like seriously who's that rocking rice ball over there.
And I don't even know what that last one should resemble....

All of these guys are exactly the same as the Pokés in SSB, uncommon Pokémon with a cool design getting famous and in Smash.
But I think it's time for the hard-working common Pidgey to be in Smash.
'Cause you know what? These Pidgeys are your first first-hand experience in catching your own Pokémon and THAT'S what the series is about, your experience as trainer, not about big and burly Arnold Quackzeneggers on steroids with triple arms, Lucky Cats from anime and whatever the last thing may ever be.

Power to the Pidgey!

I support. Didn't even read the op yet, I just want this

Noted! You'll be placed on the supporters list soon, as well as @Azure Warrior

As for the Gengar supporters, make your own thread!
As good as extra posts may be for such a small thread (2 pages already wow), this is not the Gen 1 General Discussion Thread, but the Pidgey thread.

I think Gengar is good as he's standing, but he won't get far in the future without a spiritual (PokéJoke) successor.
Now scram (ResettiJoke)

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Pidgey:

Jab: Pidgey delivers a weak kick with his foot, then Pidgey kicks another time with his other foot.
Forward Tilt: Pidgey slaps with his wing one time.
Up Tilt: Pidgey jumps up and pecks upwards.
Down Tilt: Pidgey jumps up and down while flapping his feet and wings
Dash Attack: Pidgey flies for a short time and does a flip while kicking.

Neutral Air: Pidgey twirls around, creating a small tornado that sucks opponents in.

Forward Air: Pidgey does a small looping with minimal lag. Pidgey's fast air speed allows him to throw out this move while flying.

Back Air: Pidgey slaps his wings behind him and releases a gust of wind that knocks Pidgey backwards and blows away opponents.

Up Air: Pidgey slaps his wings above him, creating a small windbox that pushes opponents up. This move also makes Pidgey rise.

Down Air: Pidgey swoops down in an arc, first he hits opponents with his beak on the way down, then he deals damage with his feet on the way up. Lastly he deals damage with his beak again with many knockback.

Forward Smash: Pidgey charges and then slashes his wing.
Up Smash: Pidgey charges and releases a hurricane as high as Palutena's Light Beam
Down Smash: Pidgey charges and does many horizontal loops

Grab: Pidgey summons a small tornado. The grab is very laggy, but pulls opponents in.
Pummel: Pidgey pecks the opponent.
Forward Throw: Pidgey slides his opponent along the ground with his talons before flinging them away.
Back Throw: Pidgey summons a gust of wind that pushes the opponent and bystanders back.
Up Throw: Pidgey summons a tornado that lifts the opponent up.
Down Throw: Pidgey jumps up and down with his opponent in his talons before throwing the opponent down.

Neutral B: Peck
Pidgey learned a lot from living in a patch of grass with fellow birds, as Pidgey is the fastest pecker alive!

Pidgey pecks extremely fast at the opponent, dealing 2% per it.
After five hits, Pidgey jumps up and can fly again.

This special deals great shield damage.

Side B: Feather Dance
A move similar to Dancing Blade, Pidgey slashes his wings depending on how the move is inputted.
Each version consists of three slashes.

Forward Feather Dance:
Hit 1: Pidgey slaps with his wing
Hit 2: Pidgey flies forward at high speed while spinning around
Hit 3: Pidgey slashes with his wings in a V-shape

This version of Feather Dance is specialised, aside from moving forward, in breaking shields.
Both the second and third hits break shield easily

Backward Feather Dance:
Hit 1: Pidgey twirls around once.
Hit 2: Pidgey releases a multi-hitting tornado
Hit 3: Pidgey slashes his wing with heavy recoil

This version of Feather Dance is ideal for getting opponents off of you.
The first hit, hits all around him and the last hit has recoil to get away easily.

Upward Feather Dance:
Hit 1: Pidgey does a somersault, knocking opponents up
Hit 2: Pidgey flies up diagonally, constantly dealing hitstun.
Hit 3: Pidgey summons a tornado that deals great knockback

This version of Feather Dance is made for getting kills.
The second hit carries opponents to the top and the last hit finishes them off.

Up B: Gust
A gust of wind comes up to help Pidgey fly, damaging opponents at the bottom of the gust, and pushing them away on
top of them.

Down B: Whirlwind
Pidgey charges his wings by holding them by his body and when fully charged, Pidgey sends out an enourmous windbox that has a bit of recoil like Shadow Ball.

Final Smash: Hurricane
Pidgey flies off-screen and an enourmous hurricane comes on stage.
And you control it.

The Hurricane will trap everybody in it for heavy damage.