The Graveyard: Disconfirmed Character Thread (SAKURAAAAAAAAAI!)

[Guybrush20X6]

I wonder if this means Justin Baley Zamus is dead now.

 

[ihskeyp]

I wonder if this means Justin Baley Zamus is dead now.

Not quite yet. It's proven characters can have more than one alt/special color palette (Little Mac), so it's not disconfirmed until the games out.

 

[Andyjoe522]

But fire emblem is not 3rd party though

Monolith is not on there either but nintendo owns the rights to that one so shulks chamces are still high (xenoblade is 2nd party.)

Technically it's classified as first party. Nintendo owns 97% of Monolith Soft, making them an official subsidiary of Nintendo (aka a first party studio). Therefore, anything they make under Nintendo is a first party game.

Anyway, should we go ahead and write an obituary for Snake if no one has already? And maybe some other popular Konami characters like Simon Belmont?

 

[Storm Eagle]

Do you mind if I write the Dragonite obituary? He's one of my favorite Pokemon, I happen to be EV training one in X right now, and I'm working on a Lance costume for the upcoming Pokemon concert.

It's only fitting!

When and where was Dragonite deconfirmed?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

When and where was Dragonite deconfirmed?

In the background to one of Meta Knight's pictures.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

RIP Snake. This man when he is in the grave needs a golden tombstone...

 

[Skyblade12]

Technically it's classified as first party. Nintendo owns 97% of Monolith Soft, making them an official subsidiary of Nintendo (aka a first party studio). Therefore, anything they make under Nintendo is a first party game.

Anyway, should we go ahead and write an obituary for Snake if no one has already? And maybe some other popular Konami characters like Simon Belmont?

Technically, from what I can tell, there's no such thing as "second party". But it's used to refer to companies who are official subsidiaries, but are still allowed to continue on primarily with their own work, rather than being incorporated entirely into the parent company. Since Monolith Soft was picked up by Nintendo, I don't think there have been any organizational shifts or staff changes, which would leave them as "second party" for the common usage.

 

[LancerStaff]

Monolith wasn't credited for Brawl even though they helped work on the game, so it's safe to say characters that aren't represented in the copyrights won't be playable.

 

[Skyblade12]

Monolith wasn't credited for Brawl even though they helped work on the game, so it's safe to say characters that aren't represented in the copyrights won't be playable.

Credits and Copyrights are different things. If a character owned by them is in-game, they'll be on the credits and the copyright list for the game. People working on a project go uncredited all the time, but there are some definite legal issues with leaving out copyright claims.

They just aren't on the box's copyright, because it doesn't need to show copyrights except for things that are on the box.

 

[iam8bit]

I wonder if this means Justin Baley Zamus is dead now.

Alts shouldn't get a tombstone regardless, so...

 

[LancerStaff]

They just aren't on the box's copyright, because it doesn't need to show copyrights except for things that are on the box.

Is this true, or an educated guess?

 

[Zathura]

I just noticed Inkay hasn't been put in but was deconfirmed as a pokeball.
Also the four dragon types behind meta knight in his picture.
And reshiram, zekrom and milotic on N's castle.

Just letting you know in case you didn't. (but you probably did).

 

[Skyblade12]

Is this true, or an educated guess?

It's true. If you need verification, pick up the box to Melee and explain why there is no "Intelligent Systems" on the box's copyright notification.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Yeah, Rayman was a safe character to deconfirm, and although the chances of Snake being in this game are next-to-impossible, he's not out entirely. That said, I think its entirely different for thrid-party characters. I do believe the thrid-parties are credited on the box of Brawl, correct?

 

[Skyblade12]

Yeah, Rayman was a safe character to deconfirm, and although the chances of Snake being in this game are next-to-impossible, he's not out entirely. That said, I think its entirely different for thrid-party characters. I do believe the thrid-parties are credited on the box of Brawl, correct?

Snake and Sonic are both shown on the box, though. So they would have to be on the box's copyright.

 

[Storm Eagle]

Cool that Dragonite finally made it into a Smash Game.

 

[Jiggly]

Bye Snake.
Bye Ice Climbers.
Bye Jigglypuff @ Jiggly

Don't even try m8

 

[SmasherMaster]

I don't think Snake should be given a grave yet. That means every third party character would as well as Marth, Ike, Robin, Lucina, Anna, Paper Mario, Andy, Sami and Shulk are deconfirmed. (Neither Intelligent Systems or Monalith Soft appear on the back of the box)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I say we don't dig any graves until any OFFICIAL sources prove it, otherwise we may have zombies and fakers

 

[iam8bit]

I say we don't dig any graves until any OFFICIAL sources prove it, otherwise we may have zombies and fakers

Indeed. No graves should be made on leaks.

 

[TitanTeaTime]

Indeed. No graves should be made on leaks.

Yeah, especially not ones with so many holes in them. Graves for veterans will be reserved for when the game is released or Sakurai directly gives us evidence that someone is gone (like a direct statement, absence of a mechanic like Chairzard or they are relegated to assist trophy status)

 

[Skyblade12]

I don't think Snake should be given a grave yet. That means every third party character would as well as Marth, Ike, Robin, Lucina, Anna, Paper Mario, Andy, Sami and Shulk are deconfirmed. (Neither Intelligent Systems or Monalith Soft appear on the back of the box)

The box copyright is only included for characters ON the box. It does not include copyrights for the entire game.

Also, adding any graves at this point would be ridiculous. There are "leaks" coming out by the dozens. We wait for official information.

 

[Pokemon-master]

..did you want me come here to cry ...... well i am unghh i really am still hopeing for dlc meowth Ashley and skull kid need to be playible

 

[Mr. Johan]

Paper Mario currently has one foot in the grave.

The Paper Mario multi-layout stage is aptly titled "Paper Mario".

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Paper Mario's currently one foot in the grave.

The Paper Mario multi-layout stage is aptly titled "Paper Mario".

ooh, that stings for a LOT of people...

 

[Pacack]

@ Opossum

The image in the OP hasn't been updated with the most recent one by @Chandelure

Also, @Chandelure Could we add Prince Sable to the Graveyard?

 

[DoobieStories]

so what about wonder red? do you guys think the daily shot of his trophy was disconfirming of him?

 

[Skyblade12]

@ Opossum

The image in the OP hasn't been updated with the most recent one by @Chandelure

Also, @Chandelure Could we add Prince Sable to the Graveyard?

@Chandelure Looks like we need one for Ghirahim as well.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Yup, there goes Ghirahim. That's the second AT this week. Interesting...

 

[Pacack]

My condolences to all the Ghirahim supporters, especially @KenithTheGatherer.

I imagine you'd want to write the obituary, no?

 

[Bunny8093]

He was my most wanted besides Krystal, now he'll never be playable status... T^T Who ever gets the obituary do a damn good job and give this fabulous man a gold stone.

 

[Arcadenik]

Ghirahim got tongue-tied.

 

[L2 Sentinel]

Decomfirmations are tough. As an Impa supporter, I'm should be glad to see one of her rivals go, but right now, I just feel bad for the Ghirahim supporters.

 

[DreadToaster]

Can we have Ghirahim's tongue poking out from the grass?

 

[Skyblade12]

He was my most wanted besides Krystal, now he'll never be playable status... T^T Who ever gets the obituary do a damn good job and give this fabulous man a gold stone.

Little Mac was once an AT too. Ghirahim may come back, especially if he stays popular and remains in Zelda games (hey, he's still in Hyrule Warriors, so it could happen).

 

[Swift Fox]

Can we have Ghirahim's tongue poking out from the grass?

Ghirahim got tongue-tied.

I find it funnier to imagine what both has described on Ghirahim's grave.

 

[Two Big Guys For You]

A few days before the Smash direct I thought to myself "hey buddy don't get too excited Robin may be chosen over him like that leakerbro said" and THAT HAPPENED. Then I thought, a while after, "maybe I shouldn't be too sure of Sukapon getting in... Takamaru would likely be getting in and that's the end". Then earlier today, I was thinking "I'm not too sure I want a SS rep in, I'd rather have Masked Link in. But Ghirahim may be in anyways."

I am become death, destroyer of worlds.

 

[Skyblade12]

A few days before the Smash direct I thought to myself "hey buddy don't get too excited Robin may be chosen over him like that leakerbro said" and THAT HAPPENED. Then I thought, a while after, "maybe I shouldn't be too sure of Sukapon getting in... Takamaru would likely be getting in and that's the end". Then earlier today, I was thinking "I'm not too sure I want a SS rep in, I'd rather have Masked Link in. But Ghirahim may be in anyways."

I am become death, destroyer of worlds.

Do you take bribes?

 

[Two Big Guys For You]

Do you take bribes?

man i don't know. i just work here.

i have actually thought about "thinking" for characters though.

Mainly, my avatar and Freddy Fazbear oddly enough.

 

[Bunny8093]

Little Mac was once an AT too. Ghirahim may come back, especially if he stays popular and remains in Zelda games (hey, he's still in Hyrule Warriors, so it could happen).

Well I guess there is that chance... but it just doesn't happen for Zelda characters... I guess with Hyrule Warriors though it could.