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The Gentleman. How tricky is it?

Nicco

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As you can see on my location, I'm from Copenhagen in Denmark, which is en Europe.
That means I'm stuck with PAL. I don't know who to hate for making PAL suck so much.

Sheik's Dthrow is harder to chaingrab. Her Uair has been significantly nerfed.
Marth's spike is gone... I love playing Marth, but it seems stupid when you can't even do the most basic combo he has.

The list goes on. Most characters have had small adjustments that ruin the fun for me sometimes. But one thing I was surprised to see, was that Falcon's "Gentleman" is easier to perform. I was like... really? Was it ever hard?

I remember back when I played as a 10 year old that I was doing the gentleman without even thinking about it. In fact I was thinking "Alright time for some extra jabs" and I actually had to put effort into "failing" the PAL gentleman. (Which should totally be renamed "The gentle pal" ^^)

And now I begin noticing that even the absolute best of the best seem to fail the gentleman pretty often.
People who can moonwalk so extreme, that Michael would get jealous. People who never miss a techroll, L-cancel, meteor cancel or walltech.
People who read minds, kill mufasa, hack and spread silence, (hehe) all seem to not be able to do it consistently in a match.

Could someone describe how tricky it is? Maybe compare it to other tech such as multishining, wobbling or maybe even Samus' super wavedash :p

To me it seems this is one of the most advanced techs in NTSC. While in PAL it's the 3rd thing any noob Falcon learns.

A - Jab.
"Cool"

A,A - Jab, Jab.
"Pretty cool"

A,A,A - Jab, Jab, Knee
"Hmmm.... Hey Patrick, how did you do that thing when he was like doing a million jabs?"
 

Zhea

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In the NTSC version there is an actual timing to getting just the third knee without any rapid jabs. Pal you just need to hit 3 times.

:phone:
 

Windrose

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you have to hold the third A or hold z or w/e other method in NTSC. Often times people get edgy and try to buffer the dash after the gentlemen too early so if you input it in too early you get the rapid japids.

sometimes for no reason at all when i don't even put my left hand on the controller i still get the rapid jabs even though ALL I DO is hold the third A.. could be controller problems or w/e but who knows.


captain falcon's weak knee is not as good for comboing as it is in ntsc as well.
 

Zhea

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There's a bit more to it then that. Check the Falcon Compendium if you want the specifics. Magus has a really good post linked in there explaining the witch craft that is the NTSC gentlemen.
 

Nicco

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captain falcon's weak knee is not as good for comboing as it is in ntsc as well.

Yeah I'm very mad about that part, but luckily it doesn't affect him too much... But screw the light knees! :p As long as he got the strong one, I'm glad. And the weak knee into uair still works pretty well in PAL.
 

TheGoat

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There's a bit more to it then that. Check the Falcon Compendium if you want the specifics. Magus has a really good post linked in there explaining the witch craft that is the NTSC gentlemen.
can you link it?
 
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how do you expect us to answer it?
37?
24?

83?
I would imagine like every other question on smashboards: some mixture of intuitive feel based on experience, backed by underlying information that rationalizes its utility.
 

Windrose

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wtf, i did not know about this whole total time vs individual A release time business..


you learn new things everyday. going to see if this knowledge improves my gentlemen success rate...which right now is honestly only at about 70%....=/ sometimes for no raisins at all, all i do is A, A, hold A i still get the rapid jabs. (all 3 hits on enemy)
 

Zhea

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I think I've read the entire falcon index, s2j's thread and scar's thread twice and I still suck balls at this game. I do know a bunch of random stuff though.

:phone:
 

ShrieK1295

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Reading about how to play doesn't really help that much. Even if you CAN do all the things that you read about, which is really unlikely, you still probably can't implement most of the technique into your game effectively.
 
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